LinuxQuestions.org
Register a domain and help support LQ
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Distributions > Fedora
User Name
Password
Fedora This forum is for the discussion of the Fedora Project.

Notices

Reply
 
Search this Thread
Old 02-12-2004, 05:54 PM   #1
BlankFrank
Member
 
Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Scotland
Distribution: Suse 9.2 (AMD64) / Mandrake 10
Posts: 62

Rep: Reputation: 15
Can you install linux to a partition that start after the 1024th Cylinder


Hi Folks

I've been looking to prepare some free space to install Fedora to. I've currently got Windows XP on my first hard Disk (60Gb ~40Gb used) but I have 2x 120Gb Drives RAIDed into 1 large volume that my Windows Games are on. I'd like to free up some space on this to install Linux (I'm using Partition magic) but it warns that If I create a Partition after the 1024th Cylinder that it may not be bootable.

Anybody know if this is likely to be a problem with a Fedora install. Also - any opinions on whether using Partition Magic's own Boot Magic would be better or worse than Lilo or Grub?

Thanks in advance
 
Old 02-12-2004, 06:08 PM   #2
jtshaw
Senior Member
 
Registered: Nov 2000
Location: Seattle, WA USA
Distribution: Ubuntu @ Home, RHEL @ Work
Posts: 3,892
Blog Entries: 1

Rep: Reputation: 66
It used to be a problem, not with linux, but with the lilo boot loader. However, it has been fixed for a few years now.
 
Old 02-12-2004, 06:13 PM   #3
Ed-MtnBiker
Member
 
Registered: Oct 2003
Location: Reno, NV
Distribution: Fedora Core 3
Posts: 88

Rep: Reputation: 15
I thought this "limitation" was due do the BIOS of the motherboard, not necessarily the software installed on it.

ie, "some" motherboards will be able to boot past cyl 1024, whereas others won't be able to do that. That's why there's a warning, you "might" have problems.....
 
Old 02-12-2004, 06:14 PM   #4
BlankFrank
Member
 
Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Scotland
Distribution: Suse 9.2 (AMD64) / Mandrake 10
Posts: 62

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 15
Thanks!

Just need to wait on those ISO's downloading then...

I've got a fairly new board - an Asus A7N8X Deluxe. I realise (from reading this forum) that it may cause me some difficulties in terms of getting things working witth the Nvidia drivers but I think the BIOS supports booting from large disks.

Last edited by BlankFrank; 02-12-2004 at 06:17 PM.
 
Old 02-12-2004, 06:25 PM   #5
jtshaw
Senior Member
 
Registered: Nov 2000
Location: Seattle, WA USA
Distribution: Ubuntu @ Home, RHEL @ Work
Posts: 3,892
Blog Entries: 1

Rep: Reputation: 66
Ed-MtnBiker,
That was originally the problem, lilo used the bios to access disks. Grub never had this problem because it always accessed the disks without the bios. Lilo implemented lba32 which got ride of the problem. So unless your bios doesn't support lba32 (Read: it is ancient) then you should be ok.
 
Old 02-12-2004, 07:07 PM   #6
vectordrake
Senior Member
 
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: NB,Canada
Distribution: Something alpha or beta, binary or source...
Posts: 2,280
Blog Entries: 4

Rep: Reputation: 47
Is that a 386? I think My 486 could handle better than that (but it was top of the line at the time. )
 
Old 02-13-2004, 02:00 AM   #7
BlankFrank
Member
 
Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Scotland
Distribution: Suse 9.2 (AMD64) / Mandrake 10
Posts: 62

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 15
I think you are missing the point - I'm not talking simply about booting from a large disk - but booting from a partition that starts after the 1024th partition of a disk - i.e one that is not the first physical partition..

I doubt your 486 could have seen a 120Gb drive never mind a RAID'ed 240Gb drive never mind booted from a partition beyond the 1024th cylinder
 
Old 02-13-2004, 06:46 AM   #8
vectordrake
Senior Member
 
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: NB,Canada
Distribution: Something alpha or beta, binary or source...
Posts: 2,280
Blog Entries: 4

Rep: Reputation: 47
Quote:
Originally posted by BlankFrank
I think you are missing the point - I'm not talking simply about booting from a large disk - but booting from a partition that starts after the 1024th partition of a disk - i.e one that is not the first physical partition..

I doubt your 486 could have seen a 120Gb drive never mind a RAID'ed 240Gb drive never mind booted from a partition beyond the 1024th cylinder
No, I got the point. If you want to make your life easier, edit that help file you read and remove that line that refers to the 1024th. That refers to an old BIOS limitation, as in back when a 1G drive was BIG (and, yes I actuall have owned a 21mb drive - just sent it to an artist so he could use the shiny platters inside for his creation)
 
Old 02-13-2004, 06:46 AM   #9
vectordrake
Senior Member
 
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: NB,Canada
Distribution: Something alpha or beta, binary or source...
Posts: 2,280
Blog Entries: 4

Rep: Reputation: 47
That's right 21mb
 
Old 02-13-2004, 06:48 AM   #10
vectordrake
Senior Member
 
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: NB,Canada
Distribution: Something alpha or beta, binary or source...
Posts: 2,280
Blog Entries: 4

Rep: Reputation: 47
And, yes, you don't have to worry about it. Install to your heart's content. That reference is for old versions of LILO that you'd have a hard time finding, unless you still had your Linux disks from 1999 or so. Install. You'll like it (with 120G, you could install several OS's )
 
Old 02-13-2004, 08:52 AM   #11
BlankFrank
Member
 
Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Scotland
Distribution: Suse 9.2 (AMD64) / Mandrake 10
Posts: 62

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 15
Thanks - the download is nearly finished.

And 21Mb I thought my old 60mb 2.5" drive in my Amiga was small
 
Old 02-13-2004, 10:08 AM   #12
BlankFrank
Member
 
Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Scotland
Distribution: Suse 9.2 (AMD64) / Mandrake 10
Posts: 62

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 15
Okay - after all that it doesn't want to install anyway,

The Fedora installer reports that the partition tables of the RAID'ed drives are corrupt and they can't be used anyway (they are fine and work perfectly in Windows XP) I have created about 30Gb of free unpartitioned space on the RAID volume to install Linux onto.

Is this problem typical with RAID sets or is it because they are using the SATA controllers on the motherboard?

Any way round it?
 
Old 02-13-2004, 04:38 PM   #13
vectordrake
Senior Member
 
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: NB,Canada
Distribution: Something alpha or beta, binary or source...
Posts: 2,280
Blog Entries: 4

Rep: Reputation: 47
Quote:
Originally posted by BlankFrank
Thanks - the download is nearly finished.

And 21Mb I thought my old 60mb 2.5" drive in my Amiga was small
came out of my Zenith XT clone. A firin' fast 8088! Had to buy a disk controller for it. LOL.
 
Old 02-13-2004, 04:40 PM   #14
vectordrake
Senior Member
 
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: NB,Canada
Distribution: Something alpha or beta, binary or source...
Posts: 2,280
Blog Entries: 4

Rep: Reputation: 47
Quote:
Originally posted by BlankFrank
Okay - after all that it doesn't want to install anyway,

The Fedora installer reports that the partition tables of the RAID'ed drives are corrupt and they can't be used anyway (they are fine and work perfectly in Windows XP) I have created about 30Gb of free unpartitioned space on the RAID volume to install Linux onto.

Is this problem typical with RAID sets or is it because they are using the SATA controllers on the motherboard?

Any way round it?
Probably both. RAID has good support for the right controller, but sata is quite new and still iffy. It can be done, but there may be some work involved. I don't have either, so I'm not much help. Anybody with RAID or S-ATA???
 
  


Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary wood_morris Linux - Newbie 6 08-28-2009 04:57 AM
Partition Table (Cylinder boundaries) and lost space imitheos Linux - General 3 09-17-2005 02:59 PM
Partition does not end on cylinder boundary. snisheeth Linux - Hardware 0 01-24-2004 04:49 PM
Partition does not end on cylinder boundary snisheeth Linux - General 0 01-22-2004 07:38 PM
1024th cylinder snocked Linux - Newbie 3 01-10-2003 10:57 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:18 PM.

Main Menu
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
identi.ca: @linuxquestions
Facebook: linuxquestions Google+: linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration