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Old 11-27-2004, 01:23 AM   #1
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Anything good about Fedora Core 3 ?


I see several threads here about problems with Fedora Core 3, which I guess you'd expect at a help forum.

Anyway, I'm downloading it now and plan to install it on a spare machine.

I was wondering if anybody has anything positive to say about it?

Thanks

Edit: Oh, I'm not trying to be sarcastic, in case it looks that way. I'm actually curious to hear the good stuff about it.

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Old 11-27-2004, 02:00 AM   #2
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Hi.

It's just as good as the previous two, and it includes proper support for SELinux and udev.
The latest KDE, GNOME, and kernel are included too, and YUM is much improved.

The install is easy as pie, and you end up with a very complete system. (OK, so MP3 support isn't there out-the-box, but a quick visit to www.rpmseek.com fixes that, and there are reasons for not including it).

I'd recommend doing a workstation install instead of a desktop install to get all the compilers etc. Overall I pretty much recommend it. (That said, I'm using a custom kernel and fluxbox which isn't included, but both of which configured and compiled fine with a pretty standard install, so what's not to like?)

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Old 11-27-2004, 09:50 AM   #3
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The differences between FC3 and previous versions aren't that obvious, but arguably that's because previous versions were already easy to install, had a good default desktop and an up to date selection of packages.

IMHO, the unique selling point of Red Hat stuff isn't really features, but that the stuff you want works with less hassle than with any other distro.

So in all in all, there isn't much to say.

Here are a few Fedora 3 specific things, though:

- Udev and the Project Utopia stuff are a really big improvement for me: this is the first Linux desktop where I have been able to just plug in USB disks and have them Just Work without either editing the fstab, or hoping that some funky distribution-specific system decides to do it's job (traumatic memories of Mandrake supermount).

- Since yum now uses mirror lists I didn't need to manually configure that either. I really like the new configuration system with 1 file per repository.

- The GNOME desktop now uses the default panel layout, rather than a Windows-like single panel with everything stuffed under a Start menu thing. Sounds small, but I find the default GNOME layout a lot more usable.

- Red Hat OpenOffice.org tweaking - it seems faster to load and less ugly than I remember from previous versions.

- SELinux gives me a warm fuzzy feeling.

Firefox 1 and Evolution 2 make life a lot nicer as well, although obviously those aren't Fedora specific.
 
Old 11-27-2004, 10:58 AM   #4
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I would agree with all of the comments above.

I grabbed the DVD image and installed from that. I'm running it on a laptop and everything that I need I was able to get working with minimal fuss. This includes the integrated wireless, touchpad, etc. UDEV seems to work great as it detected my sd/mmc card reader and mounted my sd cards with no problems at all.

There has been a few minor bugs to resolve, but pretty much everything that I've found, I've been able to find a resolution for.

My overall opinion is that it is a pretty good distro and I would recommend checking it out.

Good Luck...
 
Old 11-27-2004, 11:04 AM   #5
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Thanks for the input so far.

I can see there'll be some new stuff for me to learn:

yum
udev
Project Utopia
SELinux

 
Old 11-27-2004, 11:28 AM   #6
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The only problem I had was getting NVidia drivers working properly but everything else seems to work fine.
 
Old 11-27-2004, 01:17 PM   #7
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Well.... this just about sucks!!
I downloaded the 4 iso's.
I checked the MD5 sums.
I burned the images to CD.
I start the installation and get to the part about checking the media.
The media check starts on CD 1. I look away for a few minutes. I look back and, to my amazement, I have a blue screen of death type screen with a kernel panic and a bunch of hex stuff.
I started over. Got to the media check. No blue screen this time, but all 4 of the CD's failed the media check.

I thought maybe there was something wrong with the media check, so I continued the installation, selected automatic partitioning, selected to install 'everything', got to the formatting part, the computer locked up completely.

I tried it on another machine... same result. Dang it. I now have 4 mini frisbees. Maybe Nero sucks!!!
 
Old 11-27-2004, 01:33 PM   #8
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cd burning

Well mate to me it seems like a cd burning problem cause i did the same thing, downloaded 4 discs burn'em (with Nero -latest) and install the thing (installing took exactly 37 min on my PC). No problems whatsoever during the process. Maybe your CD-R or your CD-RW r kaputt?
 
Old 11-27-2004, 01:50 PM   #9
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try burning your iso's at a low speed. I have heard from some nero users that slowing down the write speed will make sure that the iso's are written to the CD's properly.
 
Old 11-27-2004, 02:33 PM   #10
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Media check will fail on some IDE cdrom drives even if it is a perfectly good burn.
This is a known issue - and according to Alan Cox, the bug isn't easy to fix (its a kernel bug related to the ide cdrom driver)

I always burn at 8x

I guess for some that is slow - but it's as fast as my old tried but true burner will go
 
Old 11-27-2004, 03:37 PM   #11
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Well... screw it. I downloaded CD 1 again. This time to my laptop. I burned the iso with the newer version of Nero, which is on the laptop, at 4x speed. Got the exact same results. First time with the media check I get a blue screen of death. Then reboot and get through the media check with a 'fail'. Threw it in another machine and the media check failed there again also.

Just a short while ago I downloaded the tiny version of slackware, slax, I think it's called, and used that same nero, on the laptop, and the same burn setup. That CD works like a charm.

Maybe these ( http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pu...re/3/i386/iso/ ) iso images are hosed up?

Edit: and, no, I'm not downloading the srpms files...

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Old 11-27-2004, 05:19 PM   #12
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I think those are the master copies that go out to the mirrors. As FunkyRes says, there is a known bug - the media check will "fail" in most cases, so unfortunately I wouldn't pay any attention to it at all until the kernel issue gets resolved.

FWIW, I've burned copies of all of the test releases and final release using Nero 5.5 on XP SP1 at 8x. 700Mb Verbatim and Sony CD-R blanks. I had one coaster, from a bad download.
 
Old 11-27-2004, 05:23 PM   #13
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Did you try proceeding with the installation without a media check? If indeed there is a bug, just try installing without the media check (I never do the media check) and see if you get a successful installation.
 
Old 11-27-2004, 05:36 PM   #14
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The individual RPMs on the installations CDs all have their own checksums, so if you don't get any errors while installing, then everything should be fine; regardless of whether or not the CDs passed the media check.

Dave
 
Old 11-28-2004, 01:14 AM   #15
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Quote:
Originally posted by itsjustme
I thought maybe there was something wrong with the media check, so I continued the installation, selected automatic partitioning, selected to install 'everything', got to the formatting part, the computer locked up completely.

I tried it on another machine... same result.
From post #7.
 
  


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