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Dark_Sniper* 06-29-2005 02:29 PM

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Originally posted by Arnaud_B
yea but choosing desktop environment will install kde and gnome... better to install it by end later doing apt-get install kde or apt-get install gnome... I would advise not to select anything from tasksel during the install...
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what do you mean i dont understand.

Arnaud_B 06-29-2005 02:30 PM

As I told you you install *only* the base system and then you install everythin gyou need with apt-get... it's very easy and will take care of all the dependencies for you :-)
for instance:
apt-get install packagename --> install packagename
apt-get update --> update the list of packages available
apt-get upgrade --> well upgrade...
some stuff you may want may require you to add new repositories, you can find unofficial repositories there: apt-get.org
Good luck!
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Arnaud_B 06-29-2005 02:33 PM

ok.. .when debian is installed and reboot there is a part of system configuration.. one of this step present you with a menu of "task" you may want to install, one of them is called desktop environments... it's convenient for people who dont want to bother much but it install gnome and kde (unless it is different now...) along with bunch of other stuff you may not use... so I just advised you to install a clean base system without anything else and after when you are in debian... you install(as root) the packages you want... for instance you can begin with apt-get install x-window-system kde, after you do that for everything else you want to install... firefox etc... very effective :-)
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Dark_Sniper* 06-29-2005 02:37 PM

ok i see well when its done downloading and i put it on a cd i will install it and see what happens. and tell you later if everything is good know what about the internet part howsa the install for that.

Arnaud_B 06-29-2005 02:40 PM

depends on your ethernet card... it's usually detected during the install (by the way stay connected during the install...)
Oh a last point, when you boot the cd you'll see the debian screen and a prompt, type expert26 and then enter it will give you more options and will allow you to choose a kernel2.6.
Also, during the installation you'll see messages saying that some modules necessary for your hardware are not available.. it's ok.. just make sure you don't see your ethernet card in it... and if you see it continues it can detect it later after loading more stuff...
Good luck!
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angkor 06-29-2005 04:52 PM

It all seems like sound advice to me, but one could opt for the linux26 at the boot prompt (to install the 2.6 kernel) and choose the desktop to install gnome and kde if you have a decent comp. For a newbie this would be a 'smoother' entry into the world of Debian I think.

Arnaud_B 06-29-2005 04:59 PM

ok the option expert26 is maybe not necessary but if he does not know he would have just to accept the default.. and as we don't know his hardware it can be nice... also the expert26 give the option to choose a mirror from the beginning which is really nice in case the default one is slow... As for kde and gnome I though it would be better to install later because tasksel install kde *and* gnome (unless it is different now...) and typing apt-get install kde(or gnome) is possible for everybody... :-)
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Dark_Sniper* 06-29-2005 07:56 PM

it finlly instlled i guess but know it rebooted and i thought sence i loaded LILO bootloader. Know it doesnt show the loader and it says login i do but it comes with this.

The programs included with the deian GNU/Linux system are free software: the exact distro terms for each program are described in the individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright.

Deian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTETY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by applicable law.
marcos@debian: ~$
bash


know i dont understand i think i did something wrong i followed the intrustions.

Arnaud_B 06-29-2005 08:09 PM

Congrats! :-) it worked so now you need to login as root: you type root and when prompted you type your password...
next you do apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade to make sure you are up to date
(by the way you installed a kernel 2.6 ?? yo ucan check doing uname -a)
now... if you want kde for instance and a graphical login you type:
apt-get install x-window-system kde kdm (if you have a nvidia cards there is another step let me know if this is the case...
after typing apt-get install x-window-system kde kdm you will have recommended and suggested packages to install... for instance you may want firefox, alsa etc...
for that it's apt-get install firefox and apt-get install alsa alsa-oss
once it is done you login as USER and you type startx you will then start kde... to have your login manager appear when you boot, it will just append next time you boot :-)
Congrats!!! :-)
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Dark_Sniper* 06-29-2005 08:30 PM

ok i did the apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade
know what should i do after i dont know what kdm will do. i never set this up before. and no its not a nivda card.

Dark_Sniper* 06-29-2005 08:33 PM

oh yea and what about the bootloeader i installed will it show up after all this i install this on the 2nd hdd and the first has xandros.

Arnaud_B 06-29-2005 08:52 PM

what kdm? what do you mean kdm is the login manager of kde, gdm the one of gnome...
boot loader has no problem with that, did you choose grub or lilo? do u have a 2.6 kernel? if the update upgrade your kernel and you have lilo you should run #lilo that's it :-)
did you installed kde?...
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Dark_Sniper* 06-29-2005 08:56 PM

yea i installed LILO that what the other has, kernal is 2.6, and no i havent installed kde, that what im sayin those 2 commands are what i have to write ok i will do it write know.

Arnaud_B 06-29-2005 09:00 PM

well if you *want* to install kde... ;-)
by the way uname -a says that you have a kernel2.6.....-386 I guess if yes install a 686
# apt-get install kernel-2.6-686
for kde: apt-get install x-windows-system kde kdm (you can add other packages like mozilla-firefox openoffice.org msttcorefonts alsa alsa-oss etc...
let me know how it goes!
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Dark_Sniper* 06-29-2005 09:02 PM

ok they worked but the one for "apt-get install-window-system kde and i tried with kdm as you wrote it didnt install say it cant find. the firefox worked and the alsa worked too.


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