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Old 12-10-2005, 11:39 AM   #1
turalo
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Question Where to Start??


Hy everybody, from now I'm using the DEBIAN Linux 3.1 seems to be the newest. I heave 14 cd's of it, I just finished the installation, funy is that it only used first cd to install and didnt ask for anothers, I selected almost all options all servers to install. Now my question is where should I start, I'm not superuser in Linux, I know navigation in shell, simple things like add remove files, dir's, users. but I want to lern how to configure and start my own Apache www. server in shel , not in graphics, and all other servers . so now I dont know where to start, what to do, where to finde documentation. how to praktice.

please help if you can.
 
Old 12-10-2005, 12:56 PM   #2
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If you had investigated a bit more before you downloaded you wouldn't have wasted time and money on downloading all those fourteen images and burning them out. In most cases the netinstall image is the best way to go. And with the full disk sets, only the first disk is required and if one wants the full set of them, the two DVDs are quite a bit more manageable to deal with than the diskjuggling hell of the fourteen CDs.

And Apache documentation: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/
And you can of course download documentation through apt as well if you want local copies...
E.g.
For Apache 2.x:
Code:
apt-get install apache2-doc
or for Apache 1.x:
Code:
apt-get install apache-doc
The installed documentation can be found in the subdirectories of /usr/share/doc/

And read the man files too. E.g after installing apache2 or apache:
Code:
man apache2
or
Code:
man apache

Last edited by dastrike; 12-10-2005 at 12:58 PM.
 
Old 12-10-2005, 05:58 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by turalo
Hy everybody, from now I'm using the DEBIAN Linux 3.1 seems to be the newest. I heave 14 cd's of it, I just finished the installation, funny thing is that it only used first cd to install and didn't ask for anothers. I selected almost all options all servers to install. Now my question is where should I start? I'm not superuser in Linux. I know navigation in shell, simple things like add, remove files, dir's, and users. but I want to learn how to configure and start my own Apache www. server in shell, not in graphics, and all other servers. So now I don't know where to start, what to do, where to find documentation. how to practice.

Please help if you can.
How much, if anything, have you read at http://www.apache.org/ ?

That is the home page of the Apache Web server, and a one word hunt: Apache, to Google yielded this page and an immediate reference to apache.org:
http://www.google.com/search?q=Apach...-US:unofficial

Some other good resources are this forum, http://forum.newbieslinux.com/, http://www.yolinux.com and http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/.

Note my signature for a few references as well.

As the previous post by dastrike notes, you really don't need all of those CDs unless you have a lousy network. Even then, you usually want to make sure you have the correct packages (with any possible security updates) by updating against the Debian security repository, at the very least. The CDs are helpful if you don't want to spend time online, but 14 of them include sources and multiple architectures, so clearly all 14 are not needed.

If you really want to learn, Debian and Slackware are two of the best distributions to learn. Slackware really helps you understand the system, because you pretty well need to understand it in order to get much out of the system. With Debian, that is also true to a great extent. Howver, recent Debian releases have provided easier tools that were not previously provided with the free edition of Debian.

Howver, many commercial vendors have sprung up to make up for the Debian project's deficiencies. Many of them have trivial installation programs to ease getting into Debian. A few of them have really good administrative tools. I like MEPIS for a really quick, easy install and I like Libranet for its excellent administrative tools. I also like Kanotix for its simple and up to date packaging, Xandros for its interoperability with Windows, and even Linspire, for their consumer convenience and their gutsy marketing!

KNOPPIX paved the way for several of these distributions, simplifying and improving Live CD hardware detection and installation. MEPIS really took that to town, and Ubuntu has done that, as have most of the other vendors that I have just mentioned. Most of them have downloadable ISO images, so if you have a good network and either a CD or DVD burner, I recommend considering starting with one of the commercial versions, (unless learning is your primary motivator, in which case, stick with plain Debian and learn it well).

The standard Debian netinstal is vastly improved over even two years ago - or a year, for that matter. It is finally catching up to most other easy installers. In my opinion, it is STILL too interactive and chatty. It ought to collect as much information as it can, present you with a few choices on a few pages, then shut up and do what you ask it to do. Instead, you have to interact with it on and off during installation. Better than it was, but nowhere near the state of the art.

I have sent feedback to the installers more than once and have been ignored, so I am not sure how many more times I will say something to them. Perhaps someone else can try!
 
  


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