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Old 02-16-2004, 10:57 PM   #1
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Where is X and KDE located?


Hello all, I am preparing for an fresh installation of Debian testing(wanted unstable, but only stable and testing are the ones that have the installer?), i have a cd with the d_i as a netinstaller cd, but i am wondering what is contained inside the cd that is about 100MB? I need a basic system with only kde, X, proggies for me to use the dial up modem, Mozilla and the developement package for me to make my own ltmodem driver. I don't want to dl all the 9 or more cds just to get the few programs mentioned,so which cd has these or i can just dl individual deb files from debian?

In Gentoo, i type emerge --pretend packagename and it will show me what's the files that i required , is there anything similar or better in debian?

Thanks in advance!
 
Old 02-17-2004, 08:12 AM   #2
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Debian netinst downloads everything with apt-get, so yes, you can just download the individual files.
For example, if you wanted, say, the Gimp, in a Debian console type
apt-get update
apt-get install gimp
and presto! gimp is installed
As for unstable, once everything is installed in stable or you need to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list, comment out the others and add the unstable lines (simply change the word 'testing' to 'unstable' where you see it) and then run
apt-get update
apt-get dist-upgrade
and after a period of time you will have an unstable system (lol)
Hope this helps
BTW, you can use dpkg if you are in to viewing every last available package to install the ones you want (useful if you don't know the package name for apt)
-Alex
 
Old 02-17-2004, 07:39 PM   #3
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Thanks for the instructions on apt-get. last night i tried to install via the latest debian-installer for debain testing, it failed half way during installation. i heard it is still buggy, i guess i have just verified that. What's my best chance og getting debian? Go through Knoppix? I have done that before, but i coulnd't get my winmodem make in Knoppix, that makes me no other choice but to revert back to Slackware, which allow me to make the modem driver quite quickly. I have also tried Gentoo, which surprisingly it is a very cool distro and not as difficult to installed as many has proclaimed, it has it's famed portage system that resemble a lot like APT, but my trouble starts when i started to compile stuff, it took a long time that my pc is practically unusable for anybody else at home for the next few hours, that's no good for my home as i am not the only user of the pc. So i figured that debian is a better match for my needs and limitation, as it has APT and uses binary.

As I am having only a analogue modem at home, huge downloading is not possible for me, so apt-get all the way from testing or woody to sid is not an option for me now.

thaks for taking the trouble to explain apt-get anyway.

Cheers.
 
Old 02-18-2004, 09:28 AM   #4
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I would try knoppix...can't see why the driver wouldn't make. I compiled the whole of KDE3.2 on it with no problems...
 
Old 02-18-2004, 07:27 PM   #5
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I would try knoppix...can't see why the driver wouldn't make. I compiled the whole of KDE3.2 on it with no problems...
do you have to dl any additional stuff in order for you to compile kde? is the kernel-headers in the knoppix cd? i have the 2004-02-09 version cd.
 
Old 02-21-2004, 04:04 PM   #6
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It compiled with no additional downloads on a fresh HD install using Konstruct.
 
Old 02-22-2004, 07:17 PM   #7
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thanks. But i have KIV the installation as i spend just way too much time on fiddling with Gentoo, Debian, Knoppix when Slackware is ready for me to use. But I will keep these instructions handy for my future installfest.
 
  


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