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Old 09-21-2005, 05:46 PM   #1
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Where do I get Debian "unstable"?


Can someone give me some links on where to download the recent Debian Unstable release? I went to Debian.org, but they did not provide direct links to download the unstable version. I went to "Getting Debian"-->Downloading Images of Debian-->Download a minimal Boot CD image--> BAM! no unstable version for download.

I've never used Debian before, but a new coworker insists that he have Debian Linux installed on his workstation. He wouldn't settle for Mandriva, SuSE, or Ubuntu/Kubuntu. So now I'm stuck learning this new distro, which I honestly don't want to learn.

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Old 09-21-2005, 05:49 PM   #2
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What you can do, is install Debian via one of the netinstall images, then change the source.list to contain unstable and either update the system with apt or aptitude.

Worked so far for the systems I had
 
Old 09-21-2005, 06:26 PM   #3
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there is no release of debian unstable. Debian unstable will never be released either. You can install debian stable or testing, then upgrade to unstable.
 
Old 09-21-2005, 06:28 PM   #4
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Download either Knoppix or Kanotix and do a harddrive install. That will give you a working Debian unstable system.
 
Old 09-21-2005, 07:25 PM   #5
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Download either Knoppix or Kanotix and do a harddrive install. That will give you a working Debian unstable system.
I don't understand what you mean by that, but I think I'll pass on installing KNoppix or Kanotix.

As for the other replies about updating from unstable sources, what mirrors or sources can you recommend me to? Any links I can point the installer to?

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Old 09-21-2005, 08:50 PM   #6
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This is my sources.list :-

Quote:
deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
deb http://www.bootsplash.de/files/debian/ unstable main
deb-src http://www.bootsplash.de/files/debian/ unstable main
deb http://www.soulmachine.net/debian unstable/
deb-src http://www.soulmachine.net/debian unstable/
There might be servers closer to you than them tho...
 
Old 09-21-2005, 08:52 PM   #7
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You should have unstable in your /etc/apt/source.list file already,just uncomment them and comment out experimental,stable,and testing.
do an aptitude dist-upgrade or (apt-get dist-upgrade) afterwards.



Knoppix is a mixed system
Kanotix is unstable
mepis is testing
Unbuntu is.......not of this earth
 
Old 09-22-2005, 07:25 AM   #8
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If your co worker wants Debian don't bother him with Knoppix or whatever. Just install Sarge (stable) or perhaps Etch (testing) and let him handle it from there. He probably knows best how he wants his workstation since he's a Debian user already.

Can't see why he would want an unstable version on his daily working desktop. Even though Sid isn't really that unstable it does have it's moments. For a working desktop testing is as far as I would go.
 
Old 09-22-2005, 10:41 AM   #9
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Before you consider using the Unstable branch, read this. Understand that you could be in for some serious headaches.

HTH
 
Old 09-22-2005, 10:45 AM   #10
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as loon as you have apt-listbugs installed, and as long as you CAREFULLY READ what apt-listbugs is saying when you dist-upgrade, you'll be safe.

see here:
http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/44
 
Old 09-22-2005, 12:08 PM   #11
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... and as long as you CAREFULLY READ what apt-listbugs is saying when you dist-upgrade, you'll be safe.
hehehehehe
 
Old 09-22-2005, 02:41 PM   #12
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Originally posted by a3Rogue
This is my sources.list :-



There might be servers closer to you than them tho...
** the one that is failing is the ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian one. It's the only one on the list that has the Desktop environments**



Well I added those source lists to my sources.list.
It then started download or reading some packages.
I then chose to install a basic Desktop environment but it failed. It said something about errors in the packaging or something like that.

This is already frustrating me!
What should I do?? I tried googling up some other unstable debian sources but I'm confused because not all these sources have the same packages. What's going on?

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Old 09-22-2005, 09:39 PM   #13
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These are the ones I use:
# Unstable Sid
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
# Unstable Sources
deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free

Some others that work:
# Sid backup mirrors
# deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
# deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
# deb-src ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
 
Old 09-22-2005, 11:49 PM   #14
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Thanks for the sources. I will give those a try!
 
Old 09-23-2005, 01:58 AM   #15
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Here's how it goes:

First you "su" to root and configure sources.list with "apt-setup".

Then you can edit sources.list, changing "stable" to "unstable" (if that really is what you desire).

Then you do "apt-get update" and "apt-get dist-upgrade", and then you can start installing packages (using apt-get, aptitude, synaptic or some other frontend).

Just notice that unstable can only be recommended to experienced users who know how to sort out complicated dependency problems. Stable and testing are much more trouble-free.

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