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Old 09-22-2007, 03:54 AM   #1
adamruss
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[Solved] update removes gnome-panel & gnome-core


hi, i recently moved from ubuntu 7.04 to debian sid. but i'm having this wierd problem, xorg new updates (1.7.3) removes nvidia-glx (and dosent work with the nvidia drivers as well) and gnome-applets & gnome-about are trying to upgrade to 2.20 while gnome-core & gnome-panel are staying 2.18 and it removes them!! can someone explain to me why is this happening? is this a common thing is debian testing - releasing a not complete update? i allready understood i have to look into every update before i do one. but does anyone have a suggestion or a solution for this? easpcially the xorg nvidia problem? thanks

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Old 09-22-2007, 08:46 PM   #2
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The nvidia debian drivers should be available this weekend
http://www.khensu.org/index.php?itemid=198

Gnome, you might wait on.

***Edit***

Nvidia should be in the next upload

http://incoming.debian.org/

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Old 09-23-2007, 03:31 AM   #3
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can someone explain to me why is this happening? is this a common thing is debian testing - releasing a not complete update?
And you think testing means what exactly ?

If you expect all updates to be complete and working you should be running stable. If you run testing or unstable, updates will occasionally break, and things may not always be synced, hence why they are called testing and unstable.
 
Old 09-23-2007, 04:17 AM   #4
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you should be running stable.
people keep saying thay knowing it's not really true... stable is usually out-dated in alot of ways, and hardware support is much better in testing/unstable - (like kernel 2.6.22 in sid vs. 2.6.18 in etch!) compiz.. and many more.. if i had an important server yes, use stable. (or bsd or solaris) but as a home desktop... you want to use the latest! mybe sid is a little edgy... but lenny i think is a must. anyway - updates fixed themself's allready

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Old 09-23-2007, 10:04 AM   #5
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Testing is good. However, testing is Lenny, not Sid. Sid is unstable. Testing is pretty stable. Stable is pretty much unsinkable.... of course they achieve this by leaving it the same for 2 years or so...
 
Old 09-23-2007, 11:33 AM   #6
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Stable is pretty much unsinkable.... of course they achieve this by leaving it the same for 2 years or so...
Yep, stable never breaks.
That is why I run it on a lot of units at work. The units regularly get security patches and everything works flawlessly. I want these units to run without a lot of intervention on my part.
I love stable.
 
Old 09-23-2007, 02:52 PM   #7
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You can run sid whith out problem, one way is to set up everything, and then downt do anny upgrades. My way is to do a dist-upgrade every day. and yes somtime i hav to fix things.
i am on sid on deb 64.
bertil
 
Old 09-23-2007, 08:33 PM   #8
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I never said it wouldn't fix itself, I only told you that yes in fact testing and unstable do break occasionally and if you didn't want to deal with that to run stable.

What's 2 years ? Windows lifecycle is typically 3 and most people run it far longer than that.. How many people do you know that are still running 98, ME or 2000 ? for that matter there are still people running OS/2. One doesn't always need to be on the edge. Most corporations never rush to the latest OS, they give it ttime to mature before making the move.

In Debian each of the builds has it's place.
 
Old 09-23-2007, 08:50 PM   #9
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Well adamruss, welcome to Debian Sid! This is just one of the many adventures that you will encounter with Sid!

Which is why I run testing.
 
Old 09-23-2007, 11:11 PM   #10
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I never said it was bad... just pointing it out.
 
  


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