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Old 12-05-2004, 11:40 PM   #1
Eklipz
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Switching from Slackware to Debian


I'm currently running Slackware 10 with kernel 2.6.8.1 on my laptop. I've heard good things about Debian, and I am considering trying it out. I've heard its the "hardest" distro to use, but I'm not too concerned about that. I do, however, have a few questions.

My main reason for wanting to switch is the apt-get package manager. Slackware currently has a few programs that mimic the program, swaret and slapt-get, but they don't really compare to what I've seen on Debian or even some Fedora boxes that run apt-get. I do have a couple concerns, however. I guess you could consider me to be a "neat freak" when it comes to computers. When I am installing a program, I want to make sure that there is a simple way to remove the program afterwards and "clean up" if something were to go wrong during installation, or if I just don't need the program anymore. This is sometimes a problem in Slackware, because often times there arent Slackware packages for a particular program. To get around this, there is a program called Checkinstall the you can run that makes a nice, neat slackware package out of the source files. I have noticed that Debian also has a checkinstall program, but I was wondering if it works in a similar manner. If I am trying to install a program that doesnt have a Debian package, can I run checkinstall and create a Debian package, which can later be removed easily?

Basically, to sum it all up, I'm wondering if there would ever be a time when I have to install an application from source which won't give me the option of uninstalling it later.
 
Old 12-06-2004, 12:17 AM   #2
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In fact I have just starting using Debian's net install of Sarge and it is fantastic. I have been using slackware off and on for the past year or so (whenever it was when 9 was released), and decided to try out debian on a whim. I love it so far. Apt, dpkg, synaptic, all the documentatoin on Debian itself....I'm totaly content. If you can play with Slackware, you can play with Debian and I definetly recommend checking it out. I love Slackware, in fact I cant part with it. It still runs on an old Pentium 166 that I keep around just for fun. But I am having a blast with Debian so it will be sticking around as well.
 
Old 12-06-2004, 04:32 AM   #3
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Don't know about checkinstall, but for me the options below are good enough:

*) apt-get remove (to uninstall)
*) apt-get --purge remove (uninstall and also remove configuration files)
*) apt-get autoclean (remove locale package files that can no longer be downloaded)
*) apt-get clean (remove all downloaded package files).

Good luck with Debian
 
Old 12-06-2004, 04:47 AM   #4
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You can use dpkg to remove packages installed with checkinstall. dpkg can also list all installed packages and show into which directories individual files from a certain package have gone. See "dpkg -h" and "man dpkg" for help in using dpkg.

Last edited by Dead Parrot; 12-06-2004 at 05:05 AM.
 
Old 12-06-2004, 08:13 AM   #5
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Do it the right way

If i were you, i would do these 3 things:

Read sections 1, 2, 3, and 7 of the APT-HOWTO

APT-HOWTO
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/ap.../index.en.html

this will take care of the packages questions.

Then i would read the post:

HOWTO to install Sarge with the net-installer-rc2
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...hreadid=261506

it will explain how to install sarge or sid.

Finally, i would read the sticky at the top this page::

Debian Configuration Post-Install
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...hreadid=224547

This will save you invaluable time, allowing you to be a happy Debian user.
 
Old 12-06-2004, 06:06 PM   #6
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"Basically, to sum it all up, I'm wondering if there would ever be a time when I have to install an application from source which won't give me the option of uninstalling it later."

With 8,710 packages it PROBABLY won't be a problem. ;^)
The only thing that I wanted and couldn't find an official package for was mplayer, so I decided to use VLC instead.
 
Old 12-06-2004, 06:37 PM   #7
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for mplayer & other debian video stuff:

deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat stable main
deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main
deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat unstable main

not official, but good enough.
 
  


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