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Old 07-05-2005, 08:28 PM   #1
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Permissions issue?


I had been using Ubuntu for the last month to learn Linux but kept getting HAL errors at boot and finally gave up. Two days ago I installed Debian Sarge and upgraded the kernel to 2.6 and everything is going great! I do have a few questions though:

1) I've installed Firestarter, but I can only run it as root... I'd like to have it load at startup and run automatically, but it wont let me. Is there a way around this? I've added my username to the root and sudo groups, but that didn't seem to help.

2) My sound will only play one think at a time... either system sounds, or xmms. I'm sure you know the problem... is there a howto that can guide me through a fix?

3) Printer setup is different than in Ubuntu... not sure if I was trying the right thing or not, but I didn't see my HP Photosmart listed when I tried the openoffice printer setup. Am I in the wrong place? I dont know what I did, but now it says that the cups server could not be contacted.

4) Also, I have gkrellm installed and wanted to change the skin, but I cannot seem to find the skin folder... ????

Thanks!!

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Old 07-05-2005, 08:43 PM   #2
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1) I've never used firestarter, but it's most likely just a netfilter frontend and netfilter requires root to be able to make changes.

2) Did it work in Ubuntu? Most likely your sound card (or the driver) doesn't do hardware mixing, if you're using ALSA you can setup dmix to handle the mixing inside of ALSA.

3) It's hard to say, there are many printer drivers available so it's possible you just don't have the same packages installed that Ubuntu did.

4) Generally you put them in /home/username/.gkrellm2/themes
 
Old 07-05-2005, 09:17 PM   #3
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1) I've never used firestarter, but it's most likely just a netfilter frontend and netfilter requires root to be able to make changes.
Ok, I'll try a different one then and see if there's a difference. I think I remember guarddog letting it load, but not giving access to configuration.

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2) Did it work in Ubuntu? Most likely your sound card (or the driver) doesn't do hardware mixing, if you're using ALSA you can setup dmix to handle the mixing inside of ALSA.
It didn't work in Ubuntu, I was hopefull that it was a glictch in the os... maybe it's my PC.

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3) It's hard to say, there are many printer drivers available so it's possible you just don't have the same packages installed that Ubuntu did.
I'll look around and see if I can find the right drivers.

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4) Generally you put them in /home/username/.gkrellm2/themes
That did it... I could swear I looked for that last night... must have been up too long staring at my new Debian system!

Thanks!!!

If anyone else has ideas on 1,2 or 3 please let me know!!
 
Old 07-05-2005, 11:59 PM   #4
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Ok, I'll try a different one then and see if there's a difference. I think I remember guarddog letting it load, but not giving access to configuration.
What exactly are you trying to do here? Are you trying to get an app that will let you monitor netfilter dropped packets or configure netfilter?

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It didn't work in Ubuntu, I was hopefull that it was a glictch in the os... maybe it's my PC.
Well it's either a hardware or a driver problem, most likely hardware. What kind of card is it?

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I'll look around and see if I can find the right drivers.
I doubt you'll find any other drivers and if you do, I wouldn't trust them. ALSA is the defacto standard now, you'll save yourself a lot of hassle if you take 10 minutes and configure dmix.
 
Old 07-06-2005, 12:14 AM   #5
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What exactly are you trying to do here? Are you trying to get an app that will let you monitor netfilter dropped packets or configure netfilter?
I just wanted firewall protection similar to black ice that I could see was working... I just tried guarddog, firehol and firestarter and I'll stick with firestarter I guess. Guarddog completely blocked internet access, and while I probably could have figured out a way around it, I'd rather have something dumbed down a little more.

I'm a newbie to linux, and coming from a windows environment, I'm used to having obvious security settings. Virus protection, firewalls, BHO blockers etc. I know linux is safer that way, but I dont know what practices I should take, or if I even have to worry about it.

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Well it's either a hardware or a driver problem, most likely hardware. What kind of card is it?
It's a built in intel 8280???? it's just built into my hp motherboard... which leads me to another question. If i get a soundblaster, will that possibly solve the problem of not being able to use ALSA? The only configuration I can get to work now is to use OSS.

Wait... I just realized I forgot to mention an important point. I'm using USB 5.1 speakers. When I setup the OSS with XMMS I set it up to USB (Full Duplex).


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I doubt you'll find any other drivers and if you do, I wouldn't trust them. ALSA is the defacto standard now, you'll save yourself a lot of hassle if you take 10 minutes and configure dmix.
How do I configure dmix? I've changed settings in gstreamer-properties, and the sound in the system tools.

Thanks for the help!!
 
Old 07-06-2005, 12:21 AM   #6
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I just wanted firewall protection similar to black ice that I could see was working... I just tried guarddog, firehol and firestarter and I'll stick with firestarter I guess. Guarddog completely blocked internet access, and while I probably could have figured out a way around it, I'd rather have something dumbed down a little more.

I'm a newbie to linux, and coming from a windows environment, I'm used to having obvious security settings. Virus protection, firewalls, BHO blockers etc. I know linux is safer that way, but I dont know what practices I should take, or if I even have to worry about it.
Well you won't find anything just like the firewalls on Windows, the only Linux firewall is netfilter and all of the apps you see are just frontends to that. And netfilter is managed like a 'real' firewall with rules based upon network address, port, etc and not process name or user name although those are technically possible if you really want to do that.

Personally, I would recommend not worrying about it for now. You're probably behind a SOHO NAT router so you won't be getting any unsolicited incoming connections and there's pretty much no spyware or anything to create unsolicited outbound connections.

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It's a built in intel 8280???? it's just built into my hp motherboard... which leads me to another question. If i get a soundblaster, will that possibly solve the problem of not being able to use ALSA? The only configuration I can get to work now is to use OSS.

Wait... I just realized I forgot to mention an important point. I'm using USB 5.1 speakers. When I setup the OSS with XMMS I set it up to USB (Full Duplex).
I don't know about that card in particular, but my notebook has an Intel i810 and it doesn't do hardware mixing either. I don't generally run 2 sound producing apps at a time though so I haven't messed with it much. A nice cheap SBLive card will do fine though, I have one in this machine and it definately does hardware mixing.

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How do I configure dmix? I've changed settings in gstreamer-properties, and the sound in the system tools.
It's actually a bit of a pain. If you google for 'asoundrc dmix' you can find some docs on setting it up. Personally, I would recommend just getting a SBLive, mine was $20 like 5 years ago you should be able to find one really cheap now =)
 
Old 07-06-2005, 06:54 AM   #7
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Re: Permissions issue?

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1) I've installed Firestarter, but I can only run it as root... I'd like to have it load at startup and run automatically, but it wont let me. Is there a way around this? I've added my username to the root and sudo groups, but that didn't seem to help.
Firestarter is a great firewall, really a graphic front end for iptables. However, you cannot run a firewall as a user, you *need* root priviledges. Also, you need to remember that it can only be run *after* a connection is opened (at least with the verions I am familiar with).
 
Old 07-06-2005, 02:13 PM   #8
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Personally, I would recommend not worrying about it for now. You're probably behind a SOHO NAT router so you won't be getting any unsolicited incoming connections and there's pretty much no spyware or anything to create unsolicited outbound connections.[/B]
I am behind my linksys WRT54G, I guess I'll let that one be for now.

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I don't know about that card in particular, but my notebook has an Intel i810 and it doesn't do hardware mixing either. I don't generally run 2 sound producing apps at a time though so I haven't messed with it much. A nice cheap SBLive card will do fine though, I have one in this machine and it definately does hardware mixing.

It's actually a bit of a pain. If you google for 'asoundrc dmix' you can find some docs on setting it up. Personally, I would recommend just getting a SBLive, mine was $20 like 5 years ago you should be able to find one really cheap now =)
I'll go get one. I'm a little picky when it comes to this stuff, I like everything to be perfect, i'm a little psycho like that.

I will say that since I switched over from Ubuntu, that Debian seems to really be rock solid!! I havent had any problems other than what I've caused myself. Last night I tried to get my Intellimouse Explorer buttons working via the Ubuntu forums and my Xserver wouldn't start...

And I appreciate the great support, thanks for answering my newbie questions!!
 
Old 07-06-2005, 02:17 PM   #9
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Firestarter is a great firewall, really a graphic front end for iptables. However, you cannot run a firewall as a user, you *need* root priviledges. Also, you need to remember that it can only be run *after* a connection is opened (at least with the verions I am familiar with).
It's definately my choice of the 3 I looked at. Guarddog had alot of options, but I dont want to spend that much time messing wth it, and Firehol was text based (at least as far as I could tell). I like how Firestarter puts an Icon in the sys tray and gives you a visual of what's going on.

I guess I dont have to worry about it too much right now, maybe I'll just run it when I'm on a p2p.
 
  


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