Is Debian sloppy?

Abject · 08-02-2003, 03:19 PM

As c/m says, it won't install. I thought I could go direct to testing with it (true, in theory, I think), but it is just horribly, horribly broken still.

Before you begin: I highly recommend you have another running system standing by for when you screw up and need to go googling for answers. Either a whole other computer (even Windows - it's just for Google

), or a dual-boot on the system you're installing. Next, Google for Debian-plus-<your motherboard or laptop> just to save yourself a couple of iterations.

Next : [list=1][*]download the little unofficial Woody mini-iso from here [*]burn it and boot it[*]press F3 to see your choices[*]pick bf24, almost always[*]answer all the questions for the kernel, device, fs, etc. configs[*]DO NOT do tasksel[*]DO NOT do dselect[*]you should now have a command-line woody system[/list=1]

If you don't have a bootable runnable system, use your other computer (you DO have another computer, right?) to google and thrash and try again.

Now, set your default distribution to Testing or Unstable (if you are a crazy person, or you wish to become one).

THEN apt-get dist-upgrade
THEN install x-windows-system, your favorite window manager, etc.

To address the original poster's question, this is messy, but not sloppy

crashmeister · 08-02-2003, 03:44 PM

All this reading gets me in the mood.I think I'll crab myself a mini.iso and fail once again.

slakmagik · 08-02-2003, 03:57 PM

If at first you don't succeed, fail and fail again, huh?

Ugh. Every time I go to the Debian site and start reading documentation I get a headache.

I don't know why I'm doing this. I love Slack. But before I really ran Linux and was trying to decide on a distro I thought I might want to try Debian and so it's always bugged me that I've never gotten a Debian system going.

In one of those docs I read something about

3.7 Installing Debian GNU/Linux from a Unix/Linux System

in

http://www.debian.org/releases/stabl...paring.en.html

Wonder if that would be a good way to go?

But I think I'll try your way, Abject. But you say 'set my default distro' to testing or unstable? How do I do that? And how unstable is unstable? One of my objections to Debian is that 'stable' seems more like 'rigor mortis' - I don't have to be cutting edge but would like something reasonably current. Would testing be enough?

And, yeah, I've got Slack doing fine on this box, an XP box I never touch but I suppose I *could* and I've got a Knoppix disk that works like a charm. Couple other old ones, but they won't get me on the net in any usable condition. *g*

Gotta go get some disks, though - I think I'm out. Get an optical mouse while I'm at it. I switched my crappy two button (simultaneous clicking's a *pain*) to a mouse with a scroll wheel and got that working today but the damn ball is driving me nuts.

Hoo boy. Here we go again.

stateq2 · 08-02-2003, 04:27 PM

hi everyone,

i just wanted to tell a bit about my experience w/ debian since i last posted. debian is my fav so far. the installation is a breeze. it's just the configuration that requires a bit of knowledge, but once you get through it, you feel like a linux guru

like everyone else, I dont like using packages that are really outdated. this is no problem for debian, as there are backports for everything i need. i don't think i'm going to upgrade to sarge or sid unless if really need some packages that are not available in woody. i have yet to see some i needed that were not.

Abject · 08-02-2003, 06:04 PM

Quote:

But you say 'set my default distro' to testing or unstable? How do I do that?

Take an aspirin, got to the APT HowTo, the section on "How to Keep a Mixed System"

What? Mixed? Yes. Even if you want a "Testing" system, Debian is so rigorous and methodical (some people use the shorthand "slow"

) that you'll often want to have, say, the "Unstable" version of KDE (everyone else's current version) on your otherwise "Stable" or "Testing" system.

There, it says, you want to put the following line in

Code:

/etc/apt/apt.conf
APT::Default-Release "version";

Note that "happy face" is colon-Capital-D. So, it APT-colon-colon-Upper-D...

For example, for a Testing (by default) system:

Code:

APT::Default-Release "testing";

If you are going to apt-get update from stable, testing and unstable, you may as well add:

Code:

APT::Cache-Limit 16777216;

Then, use netselect to get fast nearby mirrors. See this section of the APT HowTo for how to do that.

I run Testing with a little Unstable. So, I also use apt-showversions to only update the currently Unstable packages from Unstable. (Read all about it here)

This sounds complicated and it was to figure it out, but it's not bad in day-to-day use.

And then digiot asked:

Quote:

And how unstable is unstable?

Hard experience has taught me: Stay away from Unstable Kernels and stuff like that. Testing is what I run on my workstation. Then, carefully cherry-pick things from Unstable, if you absolutely must have some feature/function in the Unstable version. Not long ago XFree86 4.2.x was only in Unstable, Testing was 4.1.y, so I got that from Unstable. It was perfectly fine.

How's that to get started?

slakmagik · 08-02-2003, 06:28 PM

Thanks - I'll take that aspirin and try those docs.

I know what you're saying - a lot of stuff sounds complicated as hell to explain or figure out but, once you do, it seems simple enough. So hopefully I'll get to that point. I think that's probably a lot of good information.

Side-note: I've seen those smilies pop up in commands like that a million times and I still crack up every time I see it.

Sider-note: optical mouses are great! (Never had one before.) I got an IBM Optical Scroll Mouse with a booklet and a frisbee. Or coaster. Or something.

bongski55 · 08-03-2003, 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KneeLess
Okay.

How is the debian install hard? It's an automatically run menu interface. You don't have to type one command. One of my friends who knows nothing about linux, finished the install (with one or two hints from me).

Just avoid DSelect if your a newbie until your ready.

Well I'm a newbie, but DSelect = fun!

I was able to install debian using disk 1 only. Yes it was not difficult but...

1.my winmodem does not work
2. no sound
Guess I'll stick to knoppix hd installation. I won't bother with tweaking it or a kernel upgrade--too much time involved.

crashmeister · 08-03-2003, 10:29 AM

And another one: chroot is most helpful when you want to fix your latest installation screwup without rebooting and check with whatever helps you on the net at the same time from an existing system. chroot /rootmountpointdebian /bin/bash will take you there.In my case it's like chroot /data2 /bin/bash

softgun · 08-03-2003, 12:42 PM

Hi!
I took everyones advice and went ahead bravely

to install the Debian Woody from a CD.
I decided to do a base install and use apt-get.
Everything went smoothly and I found no problems. No to Tasktel and Dselect

Then I did an apt-get x-window-system. The video card choices I was offered did not have what i wanted!
I have a AGP card
Knopix selected it as
ProSavage PM using xfree86(savage)driver

First I selected (from a meagre list) vesa.
Then I reinstalled and tried Savage
I set the horiz and vert refresh rates with great precision!
But........
No luck. Xwill not start!!

I tried to find the XF86Config file - used to be in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/ in the good old days with RedHat 2.1.....
Not found in Debian

How do I get the ProSavage PM driver for Debian? Is it in the CD? If not where do I get it?

Any guidelines/advice/help/punchlines/shakes of the head/slaps on your forehead are welcome.

Abject · 08-03-2003, 12:58 PM

There might be a new topic sprouting here, but...

Your Debian XF86Config lives at:

Code:

/etc/X11/XF86Config-4

Can you please post that and:

Code:

/var/log/XFree86.0.log

I'm sure between us, we can put together enough of a brain to get you back on track

softgun · 08-04-2003, 04:38 AM

This is a pre-release version of XFree86, and is not supported in any
way. Bugs may be reported to XFree86@XFree86.Org and patches submitted
to fixes@XFree86.Org. Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions,
please check the latest version in the XFree86 CVS repository
(http://www.XFree86.Org/cvs)

XFree86 Version 4.1.0.1 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510)
Release Date: 21 December 2001
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.17 i686 [ELF]
Module Loader present
(==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Mon Aug 4 20:36:43 2003
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config"
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) ServerLayout "Simple Layout"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen 1" (0)
(**) | |-->Monitor "105E"
(**) | |-->Device "prosavage"
(**) |-->Input Device "Mouse1"
(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard1"
(**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
(**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
(**) XKB: rules: "xfree86"
(**) Option "XkbModel" "pc101"
(**) XKB: model: "pc101"
(**) Option "XkbLayout" "us"
(**) XKB: layout: "us"
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
(**) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
(**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
(++) using VT number 7

(WW) Cannot open APM
(II) Module ABI versions:
XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1
XFree86 Video Driver: 0.4
XFree86 XInput driver : 0.2
XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1
XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.2
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: "bitmap"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: "pcidata"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4
(II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1
(II) PCI: Config type is 1
(II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x00000000, mode1Res1 = 0x80000000
(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 1106,0605 card 0000,0000 rev 01 class 06,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 1106,8605 card 0000,0000 rev 00 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:07:0: chip 1106,0686 card 0000,0000 rev 40 class 06,01,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:07:1: chip 1106,0571 card 0000,0000 rev 06 class 01,01,8a hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:07:2: chip 1106,3038 card 0925,1234 rev 16 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:07:3: chip 1106,3038 card 0925,1234 rev 16 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:07:4: chip 1106,3057 card 0000,0000 rev 40 class 0c,05,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:07:5: chip 1106,3058 card 1458,a000 rev 50 class 04,01,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 5333,8a25 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 03,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) LoadModule: "scanpci"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Module scanpci: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4
(II) UnloadModule: "scanpci"
(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) PCI-to-ISA bridge:
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (-1,0,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 0 I/O range:
[0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B]
(II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B]
(II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B]
(II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:1:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 1 I/O range:
[0] -1 0 0x0000a000 - 0x0000afff (0x1000) IX[B]
(II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1 0 0xdfd00000 - 0xdfefffff (0x200000) MX[B]
(II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1 0 0xcfb00000 - 0xdfbfffff (0x10100000) MX[B]
(II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:7:0), (0,-1,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus -1 I/O range:
(II) Bus -1 non-prefetchable memory range:
(II) Bus -1 prefetchable memory range:
(--) PCI:*(1:0:0) S3 ProSavage PM133 rev 2, Mem @ 0xdfe80000/19, 0xd0000000/27, BIOS @ 0xdfe70000/16
(II) Addressable bus resource ranges are
[0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B]
[1] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B]
(II) OS-reported resource ranges:
[0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B)
[1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B)
[2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
[3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
[4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
[5] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
[6] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
(II) Active PCI resource ranges:
[0] -1 0 0xe0000000 - 0xffffffff (0x20000000) MX[B]E
[1] -1 0 0xdfe70000 - 0xdfe7ffff (0x10000) MX[B](B)
[2] -1 0 0xd0000000 - 0xd7ffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B)
[3] -1 0 0xdfe80000 - 0xdfefffff (0x80000) MX[B](B)
[4] -1 0 0x0000d400 - 0x0000d4ff (0x100) IX[B]E
[5] -1 0 0x0000d800 - 0x0000d8ff (0x100) IX[B]E
[6] -1 0 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]E
[7] -1 0 0x0000d000 - 0x0000d0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
[8] -1 0 0x0000cc00 - 0x0000ccff (0x100) IX[B]E
[9] -1 0 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IX[B]E
(II) Active PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps:
[0] -1 0 0xe0000000 - 0xffffffff (0x20000000) MX[B]E
[1] -1 0 0xdfe70000 - 0xdfe7ffff (0x10000) MX[B](B)
[2] -1 0 0xd0000000 - 0xd7ffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B)
[3] -1 0 0xdfe80000 - 0xdfefffff (0x80000) MX[B](B)
[4] -1 0 0x0000d400 - 0x0000d4ff (0x100) IX[B]E
[5] -1 0 0x0000d800 - 0x0000d8ff (0x100) IX[B]E
[6] -1 0 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]E
[7] -1 0 0x0000d000 - 0x0000d0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
[8] -1 0 0x0000cc00 - 0x0000ccff (0x100) IX[B]E
[9] -1 0 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IX[B]E
(II) OS-reported resource ranges after removing overlaps with PCI:
[0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B)
[1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B)
[2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
[3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
[4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
[5] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
[6] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
(II) All system resource ranges:
[0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B)
[1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B)
[2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
[3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
[4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
[5] -1 0 0xe0000000 - 0xffffffff (0x20000000) MX[B]E
[6] -1 0 0xdfe70000 - 0xdfe7ffff (0x10000) MX[B](B)
[7] -1 0 0xd0000000 - 0xd7ffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B)
[8] -1 0 0xdfe80000 - 0xdfefffff (0x80000) MX[B](B)
[9] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
[10] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
[11] -1 0 0x0000d400 - 0x0000d4ff (0x100) IX[B]E
[12] -1 0 0x0000d800 - 0x0000d8ff (0x100) IX[B]E
[13] -1 0 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]E
[14] -1 0 0x0000d000 - 0x0000d0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
[15] -1 0 0x0000cc00 - 0x0000ccff (0x100) IX[B]E
[16] -1 0 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IX[B]E
(II) LoadModule: "dbe"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdbe.a
(II) Module dbe: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 Server Extension
ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1
(II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
(II) LoadModule: "extmod"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libextmod.a
(II) Module extmod: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 Server Extension
ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1
(II) Loading extension SHAPE
(II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD
(II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS
(II) Loading extension SYNC
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(II) Loading extension XC-MISC
(II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
(II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc
(II) Loading extension DPMS
(II) Loading extension FontCache
(II) Loading extension TOG-CUP
(II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information
(II) Loading extension XVideo
(II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
(II) LoadModule: "type1"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libtype1.a
(II) Module type1: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2
(II) Loading font Type1
(II) Loading font CID
(II) LoadModule: "freetype"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.a
(II) Module freetype: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.1.9
Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2
(II) Loading font FreeType
(II) LoadModule: "vga"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/vga_drv.o
(II) Module vga: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 4.0.0
Module class: XFree86 Video Driver
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4
(II) LoadModule: "mouse"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o
(II) Module mouse: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 XInput Driver
ABI class: XFree86 XInput driver, version 0.2
(II) VGA: Generic VGA driver (version 4.0) for chipsets: generic
(II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:0
(--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device
(--) Chipset generic found
(II) resource ranges after xf86ClaimFixedResources() call:
[0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B)
[1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B)
[2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
[3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
[4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
[5] -1 0 0xe0000000 - 0xffffffff (0x20000000) MX[B]E
[6] -1 0 0xdfe70000 - 0xdfe7ffff (0x10000) MX[B](B)
[7] -1 0 0xd0000000 - 0xd7ffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B)
[8] -1 0 0xdfe80000 - 0xdfefffff (0x80000) MX[B](B)
[9] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
[10] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
[11] -1 0 0x0000d400 - 0x0000d4ff (0x100) IX[B]E
[12] -1 0 0x0000d800 - 0x0000d8ff (0x100) IX[B]E
[13] -1 0 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]E
[14] -1 0 0x0000d000 - 0x0000d0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
[15] -1 0 0x0000cc00 - 0x0000ccff (0x100) IX[B]E
[16] -1 0 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IX[B]E
(II) resource ranges after probing:
[0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B)
[1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B)
[2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
[3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
[4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
[5] -1 0 0xe0000000 - 0xffffffff (0x20000000) MX[B]E
[6] -1 0 0xdfe70000 - 0xdfe7ffff (0x10000) MX[B](B)
[7] -1 0 0xd0000000 - 0xd7ffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B)
[8] -1 0 0xdfe80000 - 0xdfefffff (0x80000) MX[B](B)
[9] 0 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B]
[10] 0 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B]
[11] 0 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B]
[12] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
[13] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
[14] -1 0 0x0000d400 - 0x0000d4ff (0x100) IX[B]E
[15] -1 0 0x0000d800 - 0x0000d8ff (0x100) IX[B]E
[16] -1 0 0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]E
[17] -1 0 0x0000d000 - 0x0000d0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
[18] -1 0 0x0000cc00 - 0x0000ccff (0x100) IX[B]E
[19] -1 0 0x0000ffa0 - 0x0000ffbf (0x20) IX[B]E
[20] 0 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B]
[21] 0 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B]
(II) Setting vga for screen 0.
(EE) VGA(0): No Display subsection in Screen section "Screen 1" for depth/fbbpp 1/1
(II) UnloadModule: "vga"
(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.

Fatal server error:
no screens found

When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send
the full server output, not just the last messages.
This can be found in the log file "/var/log/XFree86.0.log".
Please report problems to submit@bugs.debian.org.

softgun · 08-04-2003, 04:41 AM

This is the log file.
Even with vga I cannot get it to work

softgun · 08-04-2003, 04:53 AM

Sorry for such large posts. I have included the log file (but not the Config file) I generated with xfree86config. X keeps crashing even with the vga being chosen. I said in the first mail that Knopix choses my video card as s3 based Pro savage PM and the drivrer as the savage driver.

Redhat 7.0 and 7.2 and Mandrake 8.0 and 9.0 as well as Knoppix worked faultlessly on install. Why does Debian crash the x-windows system?
I have 16MB video RAM

Strike · 08-04-2003, 07:50 AM

Please post the config file as well.

Also, the way to configure X in Debian is via dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and not with any other config program like xf86config.

softgun · 08-05-2003, 06:46 AM

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "XFree86 Configured"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
InputDevice "PS/2 Mouse" "CorePointer"
# Serial Mouse not detected
# USB Mouse not detected
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
Option "AllowMouseOpenFail" "true"

EndSection

Section "Files"
RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/PEX"
# Additional fonts: Locale, Gimp, TTF...
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
# FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/75dpi"
# FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/100dpi"
# True type and type1 fonts are also handled via xftlib, see /etc/X11/XftConfig!
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/western"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/openoffice"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/defoma/CID"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/defoma/TrueType"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "ddc" # ddc probing of monitor
Load "GLcore"
Load "dbe"
Load "dri"
Load "extmod"
Load "glx"
Load "bitmap" # bitmap-fonts
Load "speedo"
Load "type1"
Load "freetype"
Load "record"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "keyboard"
Option "CoreKeyboard"
Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"

EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Serial Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "Microsoft"
Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
Option "Emulate3Timeout" "70"
Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "PS/2 Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "auto"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
Option "Emulate3Timeout" "70"
Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "USB Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "SendCoreEvents" "true"
Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "Buttons" "5"
EndSection

# Auto-generated by KNOPPIX mkxf86config

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
Option "DPMS" "true"
VendorName "PHL"
ModelName "PHL554e"
HorizSync 30 - 54 # DDC-probed
VertRefresh 50 - 120 # DDC-probed
# These are the DDC-probed settings reported by your monitor.
# 1024x768, 75.0Hz; hfreq=60.02, vfreq=75.03
ModeLine "1024x768" 78.75 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync
# 800x600, 85.0Hz; hfreq=53.67, vfreq=85.06
ModeLine "800x600" 56.25 800 832 896 1048 600 601 604 631 +hsync +vsync
# 800x600, 60.0Hz; hfreq=37.88, vfreq=60.32
ModeLine "800x600" 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync
# 640x480, 75.0Hz; hfreq=37.50, vfreq=75.00
ModeLine "640x480" 31.50 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync
# 640x480, 60.0Hz; hfreq=31.47, vfreq=59.94
ModeLine "640x480" 25.17 640 648 744 784 480 482 484 509 -hsync -vsync
EndSection

Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
# sw_cursor is needed for some ati and radeon cards
#Option "sw_cursor"
#Option "hw_cursor"
#Option "NoAccel"
#Option "ShowCache"
#Option "ShadowFB"
#Option "UseFBDev"
#Option "Rotate"
Identifier "Card0"
# The following line is auto-generated by KNOPPIX mkxf86config
Driver "savage"
VendorName "All"
BoardName "All"
# BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultColorDepth 16
SubSection "Display"
Depth 1
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 4
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 15
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 32
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection