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lussumo 03-27-2004 02:29 PM

Installing Qmail on Debian/Sarge
 
I recently installed Debian / Sarge (testing). It's a LAMP setup with no gui of any kind. I was just reading a howto for installing qmail on debian (linuxhelp.ca/guides/qmail/). I got to step 5 and ran into a problem:

===============
5. Installing Qmail
apt-get install ucspi-tcp-src
apt-get install qmail-src
apt-get install procmail
build-ucspi-tcp
===============

I tried to run the first line, and it said that it couldn't find the package. I tried adding a few different sources to my sources.lst file, but I still get the same error.

Is this because the tutorial is referring to Woody?
If so, is there any way for me to get the package for sarge?

Any info/advice is much appreciated.

Strike 03-27-2004 02:33 PM

My advice is to install postfix instead. Qmail isn't any better than postfix and postfix isn't encumbered by stupid restrictions on redistribution.

lussumo 03-27-2004 02:41 PM

Hmmm. Yeah,I just found a poll on this site and postfix won by a landslide. I'll check out their site.

I really don't care which MTA I install. As long as it works and it's not too hard to configure.

johnMG 03-28-2004 01:41 AM

> I was just reading a howto for installing qmail on debian

> I really don't care which MTA I install.

Why not just use exim? It seems to be the Debian default, and a pretty nice MTA besides. You can configure it with eximconfig I believe.

http://www.exim.org/
http://www.gnu.org/directory/exim.html

Strike, why would one prefer postfix over exim? (I'm getting ready to set up my email all ship-shape and Bristol-fashion this weekend and am planning on using exim.)

lussumo 03-28-2004 02:55 AM

honestly, I find the exim site totally confusing. I checked out the postfix site and read a lot of the documentation this afternoon and found it to be qutie refreshing. I *did* notice that exim came with the base install of debian, but that's not enough to sell me on something. My requirements are quite simple: I need to handle multiple domains all delivering to a single inbox which will have it's contents delivered to the end-user via pop.


tbh, I'm totally drunk right now and I'm going to have to post-pone the rest of my response until I'm sober. Gnite!

Strike 03-28-2004 10:47 AM

Postfix is more industrial-strength than exim from what I hear. I believe postfix is going to become the Debian default as well with the next release, but I'm not sure. Eximconfig is nice if your setup fits into one of the few scenarios they present you, but I remember that tweaking anything beyond that was a bit annoying. Postfix is pretty easy to configure for most things, I believe. Also, I know that it's sendmail-compatible and I'm not sure if exim is or isn't.

jbasement 03-28-2004 11:54 AM

I have been working with Postfix and have found a helpful site.

http://buffy.riseup.net/


Jason

lussumo 03-28-2004 12:31 PM

Sober w/ hangover... but trying to figure something out nonetheless :S

Exim 4.30-4 *is* installed on my machine, so I might as well give it a go before I try something else. I checked out the documentation for it on the exim site, and it's verbose to say the least. Does anyone know of a quick-start howto/tutorial for exim?

Thanks in advance...

johnMG 03-28-2004 03:34 PM

lussumo wrote:
> Does anyone know of a quick-start howto/tutorial for exim?

Here's one http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/networking/exim.html

Strike wrote:
> Also, I know that it's [postfix] sendmail-compatible and I'm not sure if exim is or isn't.

From the docs:
Like many MTAs, Exim has adopted the Sendmail interface so that it can be a straight replacement for `usr/sbin/sendmail' or `/usr/lib/sendmail'. All the relevant Sendmail options are implemented. There are also some additional options that are compatible with Smail 3, and some further options that are new to Exim.

Also, I notice that:
Code:

# ls -l /usr/sbin/sendmail
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root    root    4 Feb 16 18:48 /usr/sbin/sendmail -> exim

One last thing: exim is GPL'd. Dunno what license postfix uses -- it's not immediately obvious from their web page (though it's referred to as "freeware"). The bottom of their man page says:
Code:

LICENSE
      The  Secure  Mailer  license must be distributed with this
      software.


lussumo 03-28-2004 07:53 PM

Awesome!
Thanks JohnMG

Strike 03-29-2004 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnMG
One last thing: exim is GPL'd. Dunno what license postfix uses -- it's not immediately obvious from their web page (though it's referred to as "freeware"). The bottom of their man page says:
Code:

LICENSE
      The  Secure  Mailer  license must be distributed with this
      software.


If it's free enough to meet the Debian Free Software Guidelines, it's free enough for me :)


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