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Old 09-16-2013, 03:52 AM   #1
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Installing Debian Live on Pendrive using WINDOWS XP?


Hello

I have downloaded debian live under windows xp.

debian-live-7.0.0-i386-lxde-desktop.iso
http://caesar.acc.umu.se/debian-cd/7...e-desktop.iso\

Normally with Linux I would do
Code:
zcat debian-live-7.0.0-i386-lxde-desktop.iso > /dev/sdb
sync

However using Windows XP, how would you realize such an operation? I am not windows expert

thanks
 
Old 09-16-2013, 04:46 AM   #2
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try unetbootin
http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
Also windows7 can burn to usb

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Old 09-16-2013, 04:53 AM   #3
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also rawrite or winimage
 
Old 09-16-2013, 08:08 AM   #4
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also rawrite or winimage
rawwrite is probably better
but ...
http://grpnov.unige.ch/divdocs/Doc-A...s/RawWrite.exe

it tells me :

rawwrite
"Error couldnt run SETUP.EXE"

 
Old 09-16-2013, 08:20 AM   #5
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furthermore it does only A: for floppies
but not to E:

http://www.chrysocome.net/rawwrite

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try unetbootin
http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
Also windows7 can burn to usb
unnettbootin window s does NOT work. the debian live is not starting at boot.
 
Old 09-16-2013, 08:26 AM   #6
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\winimage is not also ok

http://www.winimage.com/downl_fr.htm
resotring virtual image to my pendrive fails also


so

summary.
sell windows


uneetbootin not working
winimage not adapted and notworking
rawwrite not adapted and not working
 
Old 09-16-2013, 08:26 AM   #7
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http://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/
Works for me.
 
Old 09-16-2013, 08:28 AM   #8
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this is either also a NO GO:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ws-dos-927260/
 
Old 09-16-2013, 08:41 AM   #9
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this method here
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/debian-...-from-windows/
is not working either since usb hdd there is none


if you try
win32 write as indicated above with debian ... lxde iso hybrid,
it does not work either !
 
Old 09-16-2013, 09:32 AM   #10
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It does not work is the most useless error description ever. What does not work? Writing to the USB? Booting from it?
 
Old 09-16-2013, 09:42 AM   #11
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and finally

dd from debian live (old archive) img to \\.\e: does not work either

http://uranus.chrysocome.net/linux/rawwrite/dd-old.htm



Brawo Debian Live I am fascinated how easy working it is
 
Old 09-16-2013, 09:57 AM   #12
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I am fascinated how a senior member of this forum is not able to give a proper description of his problems:
Again, what does not work?
Have you tested if the downloaded ISO is corrupted?
Does that machine support booting from USB?
 
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I am fascinated how a senior member of this forum is not able to give a proper description of his problems:
Again, what does not work?
Have you tested if the downloaded ISO is corrupted?
Does that machine support booting from USB?

me too.

The universal usb installer 1.9.4.2 does not work with syslinux to create the mbr.
my pendrive is 944mb and likely it is too small for debian live.

The problem is that there is no zcat for windows as it should work on linux.
I havent got any linux box close to me.

winimage, dd for windows, and rawwrite did not succeed
in making the iso hybrid or img (old stable) of debian live lxde onto the pendrive.
 
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The Debian Live LXDE is 944MB in size. If your USB device is not large enough for that, why do you blame the Debian Live developers for that? It is unlikely that they have any influence on the size of your USB device. Also, they give you a perfectly working toolset for creating Live images that fit your needs, so why blaming them?
 
Old 09-16-2013, 01:02 PM   #15
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The Debian Live LXDE is 944MB in size. If your USB device is not large enough for that, why do you blame the Debian Live developers for that? It is unlikely that they have any influence on the size of your USB device. Also, they give you a perfectly working toolset for creating Live images that fit your needs, so why blaming them?
OK I got the problem...

It was unetbootin that did not work properly
rawwrite and winimage are not suited to create a linux live pendrive

I had in addition a problem with the bios and the pendrive needed to be created a table.


So I did as follows:
- create gparted pendrive using tuxboot
http://gparted.sourceforge.net/liveusb.php
http://www.tuxboot.org/download/
- boot to ram gparted pendrive
- cat debian*lxde.iso > /dev/sdb

My recommendation is to use gparted rather than parted magic.


Tuxboot works great


Now I am posting from debian live lxde.

I will always keep with me this gparted pendrive, it is really awesome and only 133 mb, with fluxbox.



parted magic is really in my opinion too difficult to install compared to gparted live. gparted live is really simple and works well. 133 mb only


another question. Finally on hte live pendrive debian lxde, I have created a /dev/sdb2. Would you know if the /home could be mounted on this /dev/sdb2... I will try with fstab ...



2) Second problem, on this amd 64, lxde debian live is pretty slow.
Is there another debian live that is much faster and runs Fluxbox or lx/icewm, so that I would have a better / (faster) live machine?




In my case, I simply would like that the /home is the /dev/sdb2
and that /dev/sdb1 of the pendrive is the live debian as default
Quote:
7.5.1. Full persistence

By 'full persistence' it is meant that instead of using a tmpfs for storing modifications to the read-only media (with the copy-on-write, COW, system) a writable partition is used. In order to use this feature a partition with a clean writable supported filesystem on it labeled "live-rw" must be attached on the system at bootime and the system must be started with the boot parameter 'persistent'. This partition could be an ext2 partition on the hard disk or on a usb key created with, e.g.:

# mkfs.ext2 -L live-rw /dev/sdb1

If you already have a partition on your device, you could just change the label with one of the following:

# tune2fs -L live-rw /dev/sdb1 # for ext2,3,4 filesystems
# dosfslabel /dev/sdb1 live-rw # for a fat filesystem

But since live system users cannot always use a hard drive partition, and considering that most USB keys have poor write speeds, 'full' persistence could be also used with just image files, so you could create a file representing a partition and put this image file even on a NTFS partition of a foreign OS, with something like:

$ dd if=/dev/null of=live-rw bs=1G seek=1 # for a 1GB sized image file
$ /sbin/mkfs.ext2 -F live-rw

Then copy the live-rw file to a writable partition and reboot with the boot parameter 'persistent'.




ok.

7.5.2. Home automounting

If during the boot a partition (filesystem) image file or a partition labeled home-rw is discovered, this filesystem will be directly mounted as /home, thus permitting persistence of files that belong to e.g. the default user. It can be combined with full persistence.


sounds to gparted and label to home-rw
sounds really awesome !!

and what about gparted with icewm?

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