Definately a Fluxbox man here.

Hmm, would you happen to have a good config file for Fluxbox that I could use to start configuring my own? After some more playing around, I figured out that WindowMaker really isn't for me after all. I hate being forced to use desktop icons, it drives me nuts. Plus the fact that it doesn't let me do the normal virtual desktop bar where I can drag apps from one desktop to the next, I really need that feature. I'd like to have a setup somewhat similar to FVWM-crystal link. In particular, I want a WM with:

- lots of transparency
- very flexible and will let me configure it anyway I like
- fast, low memory usage
- a single taskbar that I can add or remove anything I want from it (virtual desktop panel, clock, XMMS quick button stuff, list of progs, etc)


I might end up sticking with FVWM after all, but I want to take another look at Fluxbox. After 5 minutes I couldn't find how to open the Debian menu or do much of anything useful, so I quit it without being able to give it the full test run.

well i run fvwm on an old pc and gnome on a new pc.
if your computer has 2ghz and 256 mb of ram or more, run a desktop like kde or gnome, otherwise it will be less frustating to run fvwm, fluxbox or windowmaker...this is what i think.
kde menu is too bloated compared to gnome, kde was/might be more newbie friendly from a window user perspective.

Window Maker is a very configurable window manager. You can right-click the titlebar of an application and choose "Attributes..." to disable the appicon for that application. http://main.linuxfocus.org/~georges.t/images/wl.jpg http://main.linuxfocus.org/~georges....es/wapspec.jpg

As I said in my earlier post, you can easily install PerlPanel (apt-get install perlpanel) that is very much like the Gnome panel, only without the Gnome dependencies. PerlPanel has an in-buit clock/calendar, a pager, and lots of other features.
http://jodrell.net/projects/perlpanel

Of course, you can use PerlPanel with any window manager. Personally I prefer Window Maker.

IceWM is nice for a low-spec PC. I like Matchbox too. To the other end of the world of Window Managers, there's Ion, which is nice, and that I used for a while.

Yves.

- a single taskbar that I can add or remove anything I want from it (virtual desktop panel, clock, XMMS quick button stuff, list of progs, etc)

>I use gkrellm for this purpose

In the sticky about Debian configuration at the top of this page, there is a section called IceWM Tips (also found in the Tutorials section at the top of the page), icewm does everything you mentioned, on the last page of the same sticky, GUNNIX has a section on his website with his config file for Fluxbox and Openbox.

As for the Debian Menu in Fluxbox, is the first item on the menu (Apps). You must be a troll or having serious motor problems.

You know, I've been thinking the same thing lately. KDE has too much useless crap included (keyes is a perfect example). I liked my time with gnome, although there were some parts that I couldn't configure that annoyed me.


It's the latter. I swear I couldn't find it. I'm not lazy, I'm just so busy with work and grad school lately that I can't find time to sit down and get these issues worked out. It's frustrating for me, and honestly I really would like to find time to be able to properly setup my new system.

#My fluxbox startup script

#Show splash screen
fbsetbg -C /usr/share/fluxbox/splash.jpg
#Set wallpaper
fbsetbg /home/scoops/3d_225.jpg
#Put a transparant borderless eterm in the bottom left of the screen
Eterm --trans --borderless --scrollbar=false --buttonbar=false --geometry=120x25+0-25 &
#Start two gkrellm panels
gkrellm -c stack1 &
gkrellm -c stack2 &
#Start messenger
centericq &
#Start bluetooth phone manager
gnome-phone-manager &
#start fluxbox
exec /usr/X11R6/bin/fluxbox


#Thats my startup script. Its basic

hope this helps someone menu transparency can be done by editing the style.

Aren't you a little pessimistic here? I run Gnome on a PC with "only" a PII.350, and 192mb RAM. It runs well. I just don't use Nautilus, and use ROX instead.

Yves.

sure i could replace nautilus by xfe, mozilla by dillo, etc... thunderbird by sylpheed and so on...why not gnome itself...:-)
gnome2 is pretty slow on a 566mhz. gnome1 might be bearable. i can't just relax while waiting more than 5 seconds for a simple program to open...
so fvwm on the 566mhz with most of the programs you know xfe/instead of rox, don't want all the python+gnome stuff dependencies stuff, ...

by the way salut, on dirait que beaucoup de français utilisent linux, a+... quand je pense qu'on a le même prénom ...

+1 more for Fluxbox

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by the way salut, on dirait que beaucoup de français utilisent linux, a+... quand je pense qu'on a le même prénom ... [/QUOTE

L'intelligence est la chose au monde la mieux partagée (Descartes)

Although I'm an avid fluxbox user, I might vote for icewm in this case. There are some nice configuration programs that have been written for it too, as well as a big package of themes. It is *very* configurable, yet quite a few steps less primitive than fvwm. The thing I like about fluxbox is that it really conserves desktop real estate.

fluxbox once again!