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BuckNekkid 07-01-2012 11:24 AM

Debian, most stable distro...?
 
Hi All,

I'm a tad confused. I've decided to go with Debian for my OS on this machine. But, I'm unsure as to which distro is
the most stable.

I "see" there is a "Squeeze" and also a Debian 6. What I'm looking for is the most stable, easy to download, configure
and use. If there were a lot of members using either or knew all about it, that's the one I want, the one with "HELP!", :)

I have a BILLION questions, but mostly about the ham radio programs in Debian. I don't know how many Ham Operators we
have in the Group, but if there is not enough, I can always go to www.qrz.com to find out.

Beautiful Sunday morning. Temps in the upper 80's going for 100F, humidity is up, Welcome to the Swamp, :eek:

Respectfully submitted,
Regards,

Buck

snowpine 07-01-2012 11:33 AM

Debian Stable = Debian Squeeze = Debian 6

NyteOwl 07-01-2012 12:09 PM

I wouldn't say it's the MOST stable but Debian's stable branch is certainly a contender for the title.

craigevil 07-01-2012 12:27 PM

Debian -- Debian Releases : http://www.debian.org/releases/
Quote:

The stable distribution contains the latest officially released distribution of Debian.

This is the production release of Debian, the one which we primarily recommend using.

The current stable distribution of Debian is version 6.0, codenamed squeeze. It was initially released as version 6.0.0 on February 6th, 2011 and its latest update, version 6.0.5, was released on May 12th, 2012.

k3lt01 07-01-2012 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NyteOwl (Post 4716438)
I wouldn't say it's the MOST stable but Debian's stable branch is certainly a contender for the title.

I think the OP is asking what version of Debian is the most stable.

guyonearth 07-01-2012 04:05 PM

Ubuntu is plenty stable and has a good selection of Ham radio software available. It depends whether you're looking for SDR software or something else. Debian probably has the same programs available.

k3lt01 07-01-2012 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guyonearth (Post 4716585)
Ubuntu is plenty stable

Many people would disagree with this assumption.
Quote:

Originally Posted by guyonearth (Post 4716585)
and has a good selection of Ham radio software available. It depends whether you're looking for SDR software or something else. Debian probably has the same programs available.

Considering Ubuntu uses Debian Testing and Sid as its base I would think, although I may be wrong, that Debian has everything Ubuntu has except for Ubuntu specific additions such as Unity and Ubuntu One etc.

frankbell 07-01-2012 08:03 PM

Quote:

I would think, although I may be wrong, that Debian has everything Ubuntu has except for Ubuntu specific additions such as Unity and Ubuntu One etc.
Ubuntu is more likely to have the newest versions of applications. Stability comes before bleeding edge. Debian releases a new version when it it ready and is not bound by arbitrary schedules; it may be as much as two years between version releases. If you want bleeding edge, Debian is not for you.

Also, Debian is aggressively free. It does not include by default a number of "binary blobs" that are included or readily available in Ubuntu (for example, Broadcom wireless drivers and ntfs file system drivers). That doesn't mean you cannot install them; it just means that some additional learning and more steps are needed. This article will tell you more about Debian's approach to software freedom: http://www.debian.org/intro/free

I really like Debian. I'm typing on a Debian machine right now.

Tinkster 07-01-2012 11:21 PM

Moved: This thread is more suitable in <DEBIAN> and has been moved accordingly to help your thread/question get the exposure it deserves.

k3lt01 07-01-2012 11:54 PM

Frank, Ubuntu uses the versions of programs that are available in Debian. While a Stable release of Debian may be as much as 2 years behind the current stable release of Ubuntu the Ubuntu versions (e.g. 10.04) that are built of Debian testing/Sid are pretty much the same, except for Ubuntu specific items, as the current Stable Debian. 10.04 and Squeeze are pretty much the same thing. 12.04 and Wheezy will be pretty much the same thing apart from ubuntu specific things. You are correct that Debian is aggresively "free" but I have not found Debian any harder, and in fact sometimes it is much easier, to use than the equivalent Ubuntu. Often just a matter of enabling contrib and non-free in the sources.list to have the same functionality that you will get in Ubuntu without having that annoying jockey adding things that are not better than what is already freely in the Linux Kernel.

chiendarret 07-02-2012 02:07 AM

Debian most stable/
 
It depends what you are planning to do. In computational science, be that a desktop or a big cluster (even CPU-GPU), Debian amd64 fulfills any need, even testing, if you use CPU-GPU.

Ubuntu is a surrogate of Debian, i.e., it takes what has been done with Debian, adds a few bugs (or many, according to the mass of claims on internet) and lets be installed the Windows way.

What we use is amd64, stable if CPU only, testing if CPU-GPU, in order to have the latest nvidia drivers already compiled, and using debian-software RAID1 to prevent problems should one HD fail. With our many clusters and desktop we never had any problem that could not be solved. We do not install the X server on these machines. With desktops, where the X server is installed, the prompt is without X server, so that any updating/upgrading, or anything else on the OS, is done without the burden (and danger) of graphic interfaces (unless the code makes recourse to GPU, like VMD, where appropriate care is needed). I know that taking the proprietary redhat the result will be the same. If you want to have complete command on the OS, take Slackware.

If you are at commonly writing letters or dealing with photos, take any linux distribution you want. The graphic interfaces are the same, and the result will be the same for you.

cheers
chiendarret

evo2 07-02-2012 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiendarret (Post 4716902)
Ubuntu is a surrogate of Debian, i.e., it takes what has been done with Debian, adds a few bugs (or many, according to the mass of claims on internet) and lets be installed the Windows way.

Funniest thing I've read all day: thanks.

Evo2.

BuckNekkid 07-02-2012 12:13 PM

"Thanks, Tink", et. al.
 
Howdy from the =Flyin' S's Ranch, :hattip:

Maybe I cornfused the question some. What I'm looking for is
an easy to install, easy to set-up and use with Ham Radio proggies.

The ones I'm most interest in is the PSK (Phase Shift Keying) ones.
They use Morse code (DigiPan) or digital ssb (single-side band)
types of modulation. It's in someways like RTTY (Radio Teletype)
but at 64 cycles per second and above. I believe RTTY is sent at
88 cps. One of the good things about PSK is it has a check-sum
that checks to see if the message is correct and if not, resend it.

I was told to get Xbuntu 10.4 OR 10.10. Well, they ran out of
support, so it went to the 11 series then the 12 series. 12.4 of
Xbuntu or Ubuntu is supposed to be the latest. Then when I
wrote here I got other advice, like Debian and there not being
much difference than Xbuntu.

Now, as a :newbie:, this is real confusing to me. I see
Debian Squeeze and a Debian 6, so again I'm stuck with which
is best and easiest.

I've tried to find a distro of Linux I could work with for over
10 years. The one I liked the most, Caldera 2.0(?) was great
until that iD10t, bought it and sued any and everybody for
theft of HIS software. (Curse of Abdulla - May the fleas of
a MILLION camels infest all the hairy places of his body
and his arms, legs, hands and toes shrivel to short to scratch.):eek::p

Another thing I'd like to do is to get pictures of Space, planets,
star clusters, galaxies, & on Earth, mountains, valleys, rivers,
streams, rock outcrops, & anything that does NOT show traces
of MAN ever having been there, LOL! I like to put music to
these pictures and make up personal screensavers in a movie
like, personal, thing.

Well, it's LUNCH-TIME here (after 12 Noon) and I'm hungry.

Respectfully submitted,
Regards,

Buck

TobiSGD 07-02-2012 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckNekkid (Post 4717296)
I see
Debian Squeeze and a Debian 6, so again I'm stuck with which
is best and easiest.

Debian 6 and Debian Squeeze are exactly the same thing. Squeeze is just the codename for Debian 6. Every Debian release has a codename that is related to the Toy Story movie.

62chevy 07-02-2012 12:42 PM

Looks like you have several choices with Debian.

Code:

aptitude search psk
p  dvipsk-ja                                                      - DVI-to-PostScript translator with Japanese support                     
p  gpsk31                                                        - GTK-based psk31                                                         
p  linpsk                                                        - program for operating PSK31/RTTY modes with X GUI                       
p  twpsk                                                          - Soundcard-based X program for operating PSK31



Debian 6 and Debian Squeeze are one in the same.


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