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carlosinfl 05-02-2013 01:43 PM

Debian Include VirtualBox Modules?
 
I was going to plan on building a new virtual instance of Debian 7 64-bit in VirtualBox once it's released this coming weekend. My question is does Debian come pre-packaged with VirtualBox Guest Additions to some / any degree from a base / fresh install? Some distributions pre-package the VirtualBox Guest Additions to some degree by default which can conflict when you actually attempt to install the official VirtualBox Guest Add-on package. I'd like to know what Debian offers in regards to Guest Additions by default versus manually installing it from Oracle's web site.

jdkaye 05-02-2013 01:50 PM

Code:

$ aptitude search virtualbox
p  virtualbox                                    - x86 virtualization solution - base binaries           
p  virtualbox:i386                              - x86 virtualization solution - base binaries           
p  virtualbox-dbg                                - x86 virtualization solution - debugging symbols       
p  virtualbox-dbg:i386                          - x86 virtualization solution - debugging symbols       
p  virtualbox-dkms                              - x86 virtualization solution - kernel module sources for
p  virtualbox-fuse                              - x86 virtualization solution - virtual filesystem     
p  virtualbox-fuse:i386                          - x86 virtualization solution - virtual filesystem     
p  virtualbox-guest-additions                    - transitional package for virtualbox-guest-additions-iso
p  virtualbox-guest-additions-iso                - guest additions iso image for VirtualBox             
p  virtualbox-guest-dkms                        - x86 virtualization solution - guest addition module sou
p  virtualbox-guest-source                      - x86 virtualization solution - guest addition module sou
p  virtualbox-guest-utils                        - x86 virtualization solution - non-X11 guest utilities 
p  virtualbox-guest-utils:i386                  - x86 virtualization solution - non-X11 guest utilities 
p  virtualbox-guest-x11                          - x86 virtualization solution - X11 guest utilities     
p  virtualbox-guest-x11:i386                    - x86 virtualization solution - X11 guest utilities     

p  virtualbox-ose                                - transitional package for virtualbox                   
p  virtualbox-ose-dbg                            - transitional package for virtualbox-dbg               
p  virtualbox-ose-dkms                          - transitional package for virtualbox-dkms             
p  virtualbox-ose-fuse                          - transitional package for virtualbox-fuse             
p  virtualbox-ose-guest-dkms                    - transitional package for virtualbox-guest-dkms       
p  virtualbox-ose-guest-source                  - transitional package for virtualbox-guest-source     
p  virtualbox-ose-guest-utils                    - transitional package for virtualbox-guest-utils       
p  virtualbox-ose-guest-x11                      - transitional package for virtualbox-guest-x11         
p  virtualbox-ose-qt                            - transitional package for virtualbox-qt               
p  virtualbox-ose-source                        - transitional package for virtualbox-source           
p  virtualbox-qt                                - x86 virtualization solution - Qt based user interface 
p  virtualbox-qt:i386                            - x86 virtualization solution - Qt based user interface 
p  virtualbox-source                            - x86 virtualization solution - kernel module source

There you go.
ciao,
jdk

carlosinfl 05-02-2013 02:00 PM

My question was does Debian by default install any modules what so ever from a base minimal netinstallation. You simply search some repository for all available packages one could install. I don't want to conflict a package if one is already rolled into the OS.

So to be clear, I am asking if I install Debian Linux from scratch this weekend, does Debian load any modules or packages related to VirtualBox Guest Additions or must one do what the user above did and manually search an Apt repo for available packages and manually download / install them?

CentOS 6 for example already has guest addition kernel modules loaded by default on their 'minimal' ISO.

Hungry ghost 05-02-2013 02:17 PM

No, Debian doesn't come with any virtualbox modules installed by default. You have to install them manually from the repositories (or from the host OS, if you prefer to do so).

goumba 05-02-2013 05:59 PM

Actually last I tried it, D-I did detect the VirtualBox environment and installed guest modules upon installation.

Hungry ghost 05-02-2013 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goumba (Post 4943701)
Actually last I tried it, D-I did detect the VirtualBox environment and installed guest modules upon installation.

Didn't know it since I haven't installed Debian as guest on VB.

jdkaye 05-03-2013 12:21 AM

Quote:

Actually last I tried it, D-I did detect the VirtualBox environment and installed guest modules upon installation.

Code:

$ aptitude show virtualbox
Package: virtualbox                     
New: yes
State: not installed
Version: 4.1.18-dfsg-2+deb7u1
Priority: optional
Section: otherosfs
Maintainer: Debian Virtualbox Team <pkg-virtualbox-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Architecture: amd64

Remind me what "D-I" is please. I haven't been able to detect any trace of virtualbox on my system aside from its presence in the repositories (see post #2). I would guess that the Priority setting shown above in bold answers the question.
jdk

EDDY1 05-03-2013 12:36 AM

No Debian doesn't come with VB modules but it does ask if you want to install VB-ose during installation to VB to help with the transition.

Quote:

Actually last I tried it, D-I did detect the VirtualBox environment and installed guest modules upon installation.
It installs VB_ose then you would need to install VB-guest-utils.

goumba 05-03-2013 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdkaye
Remind me what "D-I" is please.

Debian Installer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EDDY1
No Debian doesn't come with VB modules but it does ask if you want to install VB-ose during installation to VB to help with the transition.

It installs VB_ose then you would need to install VB-guest-utils.

I was pretty sure it did, so I just installed Debian Wheezy without a desktop environment, under VB 4.1.18, from the Wheezy RC3 netboot image. Only things I selected as tasksel time was Standard System. No desktop or server tasks installed, and I was never prompted whether or not I wanted them installed.

Code:

anthony@debianvm:~$ dpkg -l | grep '^ii' | grep 'virt'
ii  virtualbox-guest-dkms              4.1.18-dfsg-2+deb7u1      all          x86 virtualization solution - guest addition module source for dkms
ii  virtualbox-guest-utils            4.1.18-dfsg-2+deb7u1      i386        x86 virtualization solution - non-X11 guest utilities
ii  virtualbox-guest-x11              4.1.18-dfsg-2+deb7u1      i386        x86 virtualization solution - X11 guest utilities
ii  virtualbox-ose-guest-x11          4.1.18-dfsg-2+deb7u1      all          transitional package for virtualbox-guest-x11


EDDY1 05-03-2013 08:35 AM

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The installer asks about VB-ose just before popcon & it's not just included in the DI-cd1 it's on the regular debian-cd1 also.
I see from your post that it does install the actual guest-utils.
Here's a screenshot of the installer & VB-ose

goumba 05-03-2013 09:44 AM

Interesting... I did not get that dialog (and yes I did get the popcon dialog), I'm going to try again, maybe I accidentally hit a key.

EDDY1 05-03-2013 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goumba (Post 4944192)
Interesting... I did not get that dialog (and yes I did get the popcon dialog), I'm going to try again, maybe I accidentally hit a key.

Maybe you do like me after soo many installs it's like second nature you just keep clicking until selecting DE.

goumba 05-03-2013 10:33 AM

Just did it again, I can say for sure I was not prompted. Maybe something with the netinst CD?

Hungry ghost 05-03-2013 10:41 AM

Or maybe it depends on the installation method? (Basic vs. expert install -- I don't remember the exact terms -- expert install allows more control over the installation procedure, over what gets installed, etc.).

EDDY1 05-04-2013 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odiseo77 (Post 4944228)
Or maybe it depends on the installation method? (Basic vs. expert install -- I don't remember the exact terms -- expert install allows more control over the installation procedure, over what gets installed, etc.).

You may be right, as I always use Expert Install.


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