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Old 01-19-2010, 03:15 PM   #1
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Debian-goodies should be mandatory in any install, why isn't it?


you guys heard of debian-goodies?

dpigs is nice when making livecds

http://packages.debian.org/stable/utils/debian-goodies

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These programs are designed to integrate with standard shell tools, extending them to operate on the Debian packaging system.

dgrep - Search all files in specified packages for a regex
dglob - Generate a list of package names which match a pattern
These are also included, because they are useful and don't justify their own packages:

debget - Fetch a .deb for a package in APT's database
dpigs - Show which installed packages occupy the most space
debman - Easily view man pages from a binary .deb without extracting
debmany - Select manpages of installed or uninstalled packages
checkrestart - Help to find and restart processes which are using old
versions of upgraded files (such as libraries)
popbugs - Display a customized release-critical bug list based on
packages you use (using popularity-contest data)
 
Old 01-19-2010, 03:32 PM   #2
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Because not everyone needs those particular tools and you should only really have tools you need and use installed to minimize security hazards.
 
Old 01-19-2010, 03:40 PM   #3
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oh

seems their nice utilities though...
 
Old 01-19-2010, 04:05 PM   #4
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I would have to guess it's because there is just so much space on a 'Live' CD. Keep in mind that with Debian, a simple 'apt-get install xyz' suffices.

We all have a favorite app we think should be included. One of my favorite is the terminal app 'Terminator'. Look it up. I just love it. Not that I use a terminal all that much now a days. But when I do, I use that one.

Anyway, getting back to why... I don't know. But it's the same with the netinstall CD. Not everything comes with it. One saving grace about Debian is that it's easy to install an app. And I guess that's what keeps us Debian fanboys in this camp.

And may I suggest a low tech solution? A spiral note book to keep a list of commands and apps? I can't do without mine. Been using one for years. So much for high tech solutions.
 
Old 01-19-2010, 05:51 PM   #5
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yep
I include Terminator in all my downloads
at softpedia
 
Old 01-19-2010, 06:09 PM   #6
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Hehe I installed that package when I first did my install, don't think I have ever used any of the commands it comes with.

$ apt-cache policy debian-goodies
debian-goodies:
Installed: 0.51
Candidate: 0.51
Version table:
*** 0.51 0
990 http://ftp.debian.org sid/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

checkrestart and popbugs looks useful will have to give them a try.
 
Old 01-19-2010, 06:34 PM   #7
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yep
I include Terminator in all my downloads
at softpedia
If you're using Debian, no need to do anything else but 'apt-get install terminator'- As root of course. Nothing from Softpedia is needed.

I'm guessing you downloaded a tarball? Oh, good God, man! You've stained and besmirched your honor. What were you thinking?! Stay true to the cause; The Debian cause. Apt-get install 'app' is all that is needed to make the world right.

Install whatever you want how ever you want. But as for me, I'll do it the Debian way. Can't go a stray that way.

(Just pulling your leg)
 
Old 01-19-2010, 07:29 PM   #8
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And may I suggest a low tech solution? A spiral note book to keep a list of commands and apps? I can't do without mine. Been using one for years. So much for high tech solutions.
Indeed a very good habit. I do it slightly differently though, I have a directory with a bunch of text files that serve the same purpose. The advantage of this is that I can keep it mirrored on all my machines, so I don't have to carry a notebook with me, and better yet, I can grep text files, but I can't grep a note book.

Cheers,

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@evo2 - what command do you use to grep a particular topic in a *.txt file? I just tried on my soup_to_nuts.txt file and only got the lines with, for example, ntp or NTP in them, using "| grep -i" rather than the chunk of text including the lines with comments, etc.

Last edited by minrich; 01-21-2010 at 10:23 AM. Reason: chunk not chuck
 
Old 01-19-2010, 07:55 PM   #10
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LOL

what is alioop trippin on?

MY distros at softpedia all include terminator
goto the link
 
Old 01-19-2010, 08:06 PM   #11
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@evo2 - what command do you use to grep a particular topic in a *.txt file? I just tried on my soup_to_nuts.txt file and only got the lines with, for example, ntp or NTP in them, using "| grep -i" rather than the chuck of text including the lines with comments, etc.
Use the -A, -B and/or -C grep flags to print lines before and after the match. For example if I cant remember how to use git svn I would do something like:
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grep -C 10 "git svn" ~/doc/mydocs/*
This would output any line containing "git svn" *and* the 10 lines before and after it.

Cheers,

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Old 01-21-2010, 09:41 AM   #12
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Indeed a very good habit. I do it slightly differently though, I have a directory with a bunch of text files that serve the same purpose. The advantage of this is that I can keep it mirrored on all my machines, so I don't have to carry a notebook with me, and better yet, I can grep text files, but I can't grep a note book.

Cheers,

Evo2.
evo2, expound on this some. What is the method you use? I'd like to know. It might be something I can use.

I would guess you somehow list all of your installs/apps and store them somewhere? Maybe email them to yourself? Or keep them on a CD?

I'm interested. Give us a 'HowTo' on this. If this works for me I just might give up on my old and battered spiral notebook.
 
Old 01-23-2010, 09:20 AM   #13
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We all have a favorite app we think should be included. One of my favorite is the terminal app 'Terminator'. Look it up. I just love it. Not that I use a terminal all that much now a days. But when I do, I use that one.
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aptitude search terminator
p   terminator                                      - multiple GNOME terminals in one window
Doesn't Ctrl-Shift-T do the same thing?

as for debian goodies, i can see myself installing it and forgetting all about it
 
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I would guess you somehow list all of your installs/apps and store them somewhere? Maybe email them to yourself? Or keep them on a CD?
For installed software everything sits in /usr/local/src, so I have a record of how things are install (config.log file are very useful to keep).

More general notes I just put in text files. Eg ~/doc/mydocs/apache.txt, would contain my notes on how I have configured apache.

No email, no burning cd, just normal backups and rsyncs to other hosts,

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I'm interested. Give us a 'HowTo' on this. If this works for me I just might give up on my old and battered spiral notebook.
I guess it's really not much more sophisticated than your spiral note book, but: I always have it with me (if I have network, or one of my notebooks), and it can be grepped.

Cheers,

Evo2.
 
  


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