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I am running Debian Etch and I am interested in upgrading to Sid. I searched google and found multiple places saying that Sid is too unstable, but those were all dated 2005 to mid 2006. How soon will Etch be released as stable and how soon will Sid be released as testing? It is now many months later than mid '06, so is it a good idea to upgrade to Sid? Or should I wait until Etch is officially Stable?
the way my system is set up I use testing (etch for now)with sid in my repos list.I keep the sid sources unchecked and only use them for packages that either are unavailable or broken in the testing release. ( I check the sid for the upgrade for a particular package and then uncheck it my done).
Last edited by glidermike; 02-20-2007 at 09:16 PM.
...since Sid does not recieve official security updates, I will stick with Etch
Actually, Sid does receive the updates ... before any of the other releases. Since Sid gets everything first, security updates are part of that.
Nevertheless, I would recommend that you stay with Testing for a while. It sounds like you haven't quite figured out the Debian sytem, yet, and it's a good idea to stick with Testing until you're pretty confident you know what you're doing.
I know quite a bit about linux in general and I know more about debian than other distros. However, I am by no means a guru. I was hoping by upgrading to Sid would teach me more about how to resolve dependencies and other issues. I have been running debian for about 1.5 years, so I know how it all works. I fall somewhere between user and guru (for debian at least), but more on the user side. So thanks for clearing all that up about the different releases.
What I was really getting at though was how to get the newest version of packages and some others that are not available to Etch. I did see sidux when I was doing some searches on google, and it looks promissing. Thanks for the link.
Is Xfce4 available in Sidux? (of course after a HD install)
Then you apt-get update and to install a package from unstable apt-get -s -t unstable package removing the -s if everything looks good sometimes you need to add extra packages on the end if apt complains about a package needed not being installed or at the right version, you can use aptitude in place of apt-get if you use it.
As you can see, I don't bother with the experimental stuff (don't know enough about how to get out of trouble if things go wrong). Plus theres little point in having a live entry for the testing stuff if the SID/unstable stuff is more up to date.
It's very good, I'd recommend it to anyone. Particularly if you use some of the available scripts to do the updates etc (the "h2" script comes to mind immediately as it updates everything including kernels etc and then detects the graphics card and offers you a choice of proprietary drivers if needed).
If you did "go for it", I'd suggest that you have a look through the sidux forums, they answer almost as quickly as here at LQ - if you installed their IRC, you get answers/support even quicker (bearing in mind it can look a little strange as the IRC channel shows lots of posting in German, demonstrating the german roots of sidux - the dev's where kanotix dev's before kano decided to start changing repos etc. This isn't a problem though - I don't speak any German and they've all been vvv helpful).
p.s. Oh and the "sidux temporarily" entries in my sources.list are because mine was originally kanotix - which I converted with h2's script
Recently released Xfce 4.4RC2 (18.104.22.168) should be available soon in Debian unstable but we may release more cutting-edge bits to Corsac's repository as below. Source and binary packages for i386, powerpc and sparc are available at:
Thanks guys. I was under the impression that Sid did not recieve security updates. That was my main concern, but I think when I get more time (tomorrow probably, for presidents day) I will try out Sid. I just wanted to find out if it was a smart idea to upgrade.
I did a base install on a spare machine with the Etch net-install cd. I upgraded to a Sid base-install, and it works like a charm. My Wireless card works (madwifi) and overall Sid runs like a charm. Maybe after I have used Sid for a while, I will upgrade my laptop as well. Time to get a gui!