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Old 05-06-2013, 08:39 PM   #31
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system default should be gdm3, as mine is, unless you have another DE that you made default.
 
Old 05-07-2013, 12:47 AM   #32
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System default is my normal gnome3 desktop.
 
Old 05-07-2013, 07:51 AM   #33
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System default is my normal gnome3 desktop.
Yeah If I select System Default GDM3 wouldn't let me log in, If I select GNOME then it would let me in just fine.
I havent installed any other desktop environment other than the ones they where there from Squeeze

At this point I wont be changing anything though, perhaps the only changes will be to switch to Jessie in the future.

Thank you
 
Old 05-07-2013, 02:03 PM   #34
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Although not being able to select default is not a problem, you can possibly just reinstall gnome to correct it.
 
Old 05-13-2013, 10:15 AM   #35
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Yeah If I select System Default GDM3 wouldn't let me log in, If I select GNOME then it would let me in just fine.
I havent installed any other desktop environment other than the ones they where there from Squeeze
I'm wondering if something got messed up in the upgrade. I've been using Wheezy on my laptop since I got it so I've been fine.

What happens if you completely remove gnome-session and reinstall?
 
Old 05-13-2013, 11:00 AM   #36
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I believe kdm/gdm3/etc, etc uses the default set by the Debian alternatives system. Posts outputs:
Code:
# update-alternatives --display x-session-manager
Code:
# update-alternatives --display x-window-manager

Last edited by cynwulf; 05-13-2013 at 11:01 AM.
 
Old 05-14-2013, 06:26 PM   #37
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Hi guys.
I havent issue a re install of Gnome because I dont think that will fix the problem if configuration directory remains unchanged in /home/user/.Gnome I believe there is where the conflict resides. I mean I am not an experts just a wild guess.

For now it is working I just had to select GNOME manually once from the display manager.
I wonder if the issue started because previous to the upgrade I was using Compiz fusion.

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I believe kdm/gdm3/etc, etc uses the default set by the Debian alternatives system. Posts outputs:
Code:
# update-alternatives --display x-session-manager
Quote:
# update-alternatives --display x-session-manager
x-session-manager - auto mode
link currently points to /usr/bin/gnome-session
/usr/bin/gnome-session - priority 50
slave x-session-manager.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/gnome-session.1.gz
/usr/bin/gnome-session-fallback - priority 40
slave x-session-manager.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/gnome-session.1.gz
Current 'best' version is '/usr/bin/gnome-session'.
Code:
# update-alternatives --display x-window-manager
Quote:
x-window-manager - auto mode
link currently points to /usr/bin/metacity
/usr/bin/metacity - priority 60
slave x-window-manager.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/metacity.1.gz
/usr/bin/twm - priority 40
slave x-window-manager.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/twm.1.gz
Current 'best' version is '/usr/bin/metacity'.
 
Old 05-15-2013, 06:42 AM   #38
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I know little about gnome these days, but shouldn't your default wm be mutter rather than metacity? (as I said I'm not well up on gnome so perhaps this is the norm)

Is mutter even installed?
Code:
$ apt-cache policy mutter
Are you sure you've upgraded everything? Removed any old pinning, removed squeeze/oldstable sources, package holds, etc?

What is the output of
Code:
# apt-get autoclean ; apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
Code:
# apt-get -f install
If all of that checks out ok, then you should try purging gdm3 and reinstalling it next.

Last edited by cynwulf; 05-15-2013 at 06:43 AM.
 
Old 05-16-2013, 09:22 AM   #39
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I know little about gnome these days, but shouldn't your default wm be mutter rather than metacity? (as I said I'm not well up on gnome so perhaps this is the norm)
AFAIK, the binary is still called metacity. It is on my laptop which has always been a Wheezy install, never upgraded from another version.

Code:
x-window-manager - auto mode
  link currently points to /usr/bin/metacity
/usr/bin/metacity - priority 60
  slave x-window-manager.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/metacity.1.gz
Current 'best' version is '/usr/bin/metacity'.
 
Old 05-19-2013, 06:57 AM   #40
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I stand corrected.

Metacity is installed, by default. Mutter is a separate package, and not installed by default.

This may be as metacity is required for the failsafe session, so it is installed and mutter is not (I would think the better solution is to install both). If I try to remove metacity, I get:

Code:
      Remove the following packages:                                            
1)      gdm3                                                                    
2)      gnome                                                                   
3)      gnome-core                                                              
4)      gnome-desktop-environment                                               
5)      gnome-session-fallback                                                  
6)      task-gnome-desktop
Mutter has no such ill effect.

So, perhaps mutter must be installed and set as GNOMEs WM for it to be used. I installed it, the UX is not that much different than that of metacity, but I did not play with it much - just a few effects when resizing windows. Updating the alternative has no effect on which WM was used with GNOME (as I understand would be normal - reading the results of a search or two).

Last edited by goumba; 05-19-2013 at 07:29 AM. Reason: A few corrections.
 
Old 05-19-2013, 09:37 PM   #41
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I don't think the window manager needs changed. I think you need the added functionality of mutter to do the compositing required by GS.

Need to admit not knowing much about Gnome 3 or GS anymore. Gave up on it when they gave up on being reliable or easily and massively configurable.
 
Old 05-20-2013, 05:35 AM   #42
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I don't think the window manager needs changed. I think you need the added functionality of mutter to do the compositing required by GS.
GS doesn't actually use the package "mutter" infact very few packages have it listed as a dependency. mutter-common and the libmutter type packages are used by GS though.

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Need to admit not knowing much about Gnome 3 or GS anymore. Gave up on it when they gave up on being reliable or easily and massively configurable.
I've never had an issue with Gnome3 (GS and fallback) in general my only requirement is fast and lightweight and able to run on old and underpowered PCs in a single bound so that automatically cuts out Gnome3 (all versions) and KDE. I have a few Pentium 4s with inbuilt graphics that GS itself will not run on so I run MATE instead of using fallback. If anything my only dislike of Gnome is their continued insistance to make various parts of Evolution a dependency.
 
Old 05-20-2013, 06:34 AM   #43
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GS doesn't actually use the package "mutter" infact very few packages have it listed as a dependency. mutter-common and the libmutter type packages are used by GS though.
I came to much the same conclusion - though I won't pretend to understand it.

In terms of performance, I've found that gtk2 is the most sluggish with toolkit-less firefox/thunderbird/seamonkey (ice*) coming in a close second. gtk3 and qt are much smoother - this is in terms of rendering, not memory footprint or general bloatiness. Not scientific - just from my own experience on my own old Pentium 4 based relic (YMMV).

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Old 05-20-2013, 07:08 AM   #44
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GS doesn't actually use the package "mutter" infact very few packages have it listed as a dependency. mutter-common and the libmutter type packages are used by GS though.
I understand that. It's confusing as well as the GNOME team says that mutter is the window manager for GS, but it's not installed. Then I though perhaps that Wheezy's version of metacity may have been built with libmutter - effectively making it mutter. Not the case.

Like I said though, I'm not even going to worry about it. It's not even worth it for the one resize effect I saw mutter provide that metacity did not.
 
  


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