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Old 07-21-2004, 08:41 AM   #1
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CUPS not 'talking' to foomatic?


Hi,

I am using CUPS to print to a Canon BJ 43010SP connected to a network by an ethernet print server.

Connecting via lpd://192.168.0.10:515/lp and using CUPS with a Canon 43000Gimp-Print v 4.26 driver, everything works fine.

But, when I tried to use a PPD (from www.linuxprinting.org) specific to the Canon 4310SP I had a problem.

I tested the PPD file with 'cupstestppd' and it was fine.

The PPD file seemed to install fine, using the CUPS setup browser interface. But when tried to print a test page nothing happpened. Checking in a terminal the printer's status was "Attempting to connect to host 192.168.0.10 for printer lp" and just stayed that way.

All the foomatic packages are installed and I tried stopping and re-starting CUPS (even re-booting).

I would greatly appreciate any help.

Regards,

Geoff.
 
Old 07-21-2004, 09:05 AM   #2
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sorry, i can't help you, i don't even own a printer, can't afford the ink cartridges.

But, out of curiosity, what do the boys from the linuxprinting.org forums say about this? have you asked them?
 
Old 07-21-2004, 09:41 AM   #3
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Hi,

Had a look at those forums. Very few posts and even fewer replies.

Regards,

Geoff.
 
Old 07-22-2004, 01:59 AM   #4
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cups...

I don't know much about this, but I've just worked through a long post on this forum about my own cups network printing problem, and in the process have looked through the cupsd.conf file quite a bit. Take a look at the Browse and Listen settings in that file to make sure that machines on your network can connect properly. Also, I had to choose the non-foomatic driver choice for my printer to get network printing to work properly.

As I said, I don't know much, but maybe some of this will help.
 
Old 07-22-2004, 07:31 AM   #5
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Hi,

Thanks for your interest - I read your post with interest.

Actually the network connection works fine for the gimp-print drivers. I have used the debug setting in cupsd.conf to trap the errors. The extract below says (I think) that the problem is connected with cups using the foomatic-rip filter utility:

I [22/Jul/2004:18:42:40 +0000] New printer 'BJC4310SP' added by 'root'.
I [22/Jul/2004:18:42:43 +0000] Started "/usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi" (pid=2016)
I [22/Jul/2004:18:42:48 +0000] Started "/usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi" (pid=2017)
I [22/Jul/2004:18:42:49 +0000] Adding start banner page "none" to job 1.
I [22/Jul/2004:18:42:49 +0000] Adding end banner page "none" to job 1.
I [22/Jul/2004:18:42:49 +0000] Job 1 queued on 'BJC4310SP' by 'root'.
I [22/Jul/2004:18:42:49 +0000] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/pstops (PID 2018) for job 1.
I [22/Jul/2004:18:42:49 +0000] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip (PID 2019) for job 1.
I [22/Jul/2004:18:42:49 +0000] Started backend /usr/lib/cups/backend/lpd (PID 2020) for job 1.
E [22/Jul/2004:18:42:49 +0000] PID 2019 stopped with status 2!

The funny thing is that when I tried the "lprng" printing method, using apsfilter to setup the printer, I was able to get both the gimp-print and foomatic ppds to work. But only as testpages from apsfilter - that is a whole other story. However, the foomatic output was much better (and faster) than the gimp-print.

Hence why I am trying to get the cups system to work - at least I have been able to get it to work (using the gimp-print drivers) with applications.

As a (hopefully) refugee from Windows, I just can't believe that the printing in Linux is so difficult.

Bye for now,

Geoff.
 
Old 07-22-2004, 08:00 AM   #6
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I just can't believe that the printing in Linux is so difficult.
A major part of printing difficulties under Linux are due to printer manufacturers not providing decent driver support for Linux. I recently bought a local laser printer (Samsung ML-1710) that comes with a proprietary CUPS driver for Linux (with a GUI driver setup program!) on CD and now I can print in Linux just as easily as in WinXP, with the same printing options and the same printing quality. I guess Linux has to become a bit more popular before printer manufacturers wake up to realize that offering drivers for Linux helps to sell their products. My initial intention was to buy a HP or Canon or Epson printer but after visiting linuxprinting.org and checking the Linux support for their printers, I decided to go for Samsung instead.
 
Old 07-22-2004, 09:13 AM   #7
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Hi,

What you say about the printer manufacturer's lousy support for linux is true.

But my problem is not the driver.

Under apsfilter/lprng I get a beautiful test page using ghostscript but can not print from any of the applications.

Under CUPS I can print but the gimp-print driver output is not very good.

The problem is that I can not get CUPS to use the foomatic/ghostscript driver, which is the driver that gives the great test print with apsfilter.

It seems that the lego-style printing system, with all the little variations across the major distros, that is the problem.

Geoff.
 
Old 07-22-2004, 09:33 AM   #8
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I don't know if this will be of any help, but have you tried the "xpp" (X Printing Panel) program, which you can use to tweak most properties of your CUPS driver? I have no idea how to make CUPS to use the foomatic/ghostscript driver but with xpp you should at least be able to sqeeze the best output of the gimp-print driver.
 
  


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