Cant reinstall Gnome on Sid

Zaskar · 09-28-2007, 01:28 PM

Heya guys, a few days back I did an update that removed Gnome due to a conflict, I diddnt really mind since I figured I diddnt really use it and it would resolve itself, but it still hasnt, this is the aptitude readout:

Code:

# aptitude install gnome-desktop-environment
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information       
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done  
Building tag database... Done    
The following packages are BROKEN:
  ekiga gnome-applets gnome-power-manager gnome-system-monitor gok 
  libopal-2.2 notification-daemon 
The following NEW packages will be automatically installed:
  arj at-spi bind9-host bug-buddy dasher dasher-data deskbar-applet 
  dmz-cursor-theme dnsutils eog esound espeak espeak-data evolution 
  evolution-common evolution-plugins fam fast-user-switch-applet 
  file-roller finger freeglut3 gcalctool gconf-editor gedit gedit-common 
  gnome-accessibility-themes gnome-applets-data gnome-backgrounds 
  gnome-cards-data gnome-core gnome-games gnome-games-data 
  gnome-games-extra-data gnome-keyring-manager gnome-mag 
  gnome-netstatus-applet gnome-nettool gnome-orca gnome-orca-common 
  gnome-pilot gnome-pilot-conduits gnome-system-tools gnome-themes 
  gnome-utils gnuchess gnuchess-book gstreamer0.10-tools gtkhtml3.14 
  gucharmap guile-1.8-libs imagemagick libapm1 libarchive-tar-perl 
  libatspi1.0-0 libbeagle0 libbeecrypt6 libbind9-30 libbrlapi0.5 
  libcolorblind0 libcompress-raw-zlib-perl libcompress-zlib-perl 
  libdigest-hmac-perl libdigest-sha1-perl libdns32 libelf1 libespeak1 
  libexchange-storage1.2-3 libgnome-mag2 libgnome-pilot2 
  libgnome-speech7 libgnomeprint2.2-0 libgnomeprint2.2-data 
  libgnomeprintui2.2-0 libgnomeprintui2.2-common libgnomevfs2-bin 
  libgtkglext1 libgtkhtml3.14-19 libgtksourceview-common 
  libgtksourceview1.0-0 libgucharmap6 libio-compress-base-perl 
  libio-compress-zlib-perl libio-zlib-perl libisc32 libisccc30 
  libisccfg30 liblwres30 libmail-spf-query-perl libnet-cidr-lite-perl 
  libnet-dbus-perl libnet-dns-perl libnet-ip-perl liboobs-1-3 libpisync0 
  librpm4.4 libsocket6-perl libsys-hostname-long-perl libsys-syslog-perl 
  libtie-ixhash-perl libxevie1 libxml-parser-perl libxml-twig-perl 
  libxml-xpath-perl lzop ncompress p7zip pkg-config powermgmt-base 
  python-beagle python-brlapi python-ctypes python-fpconst 
  python-gnome2-desktop python-gtkglext1 python-opengl python-setuptools 
  python-soappy re2c rpm seahorse spamassassin spamc 
  system-tools-backends unace vino whois 
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  arj at-spi bind9-host bug-buddy dasher dasher-data deskbar-applet 
  dmz-cursor-theme dnsutils eog esound espeak espeak-data evolution 
  evolution-common evolution-plugins fam fast-user-switch-applet 
  file-roller finger freeglut3 gcalctool gconf-editor gedit gedit-common 
  gnome-accessibility-themes gnome-applets-data gnome-backgrounds 
  gnome-cards-data gnome-core gnome-desktop-environment gnome-games 
  gnome-games-data gnome-games-extra-data gnome-keyring-manager 
  gnome-mag gnome-netstatus-applet gnome-nettool gnome-orca 
  gnome-orca-common gnome-pilot gnome-pilot-conduits gnome-system-tools 
  gnome-themes gnome-utils gnuchess gnuchess-book gstreamer0.10-tools 
  gtkhtml3.14 gucharmap guile-1.8-libs imagemagick libapm1 
  libarchive-tar-perl libatspi1.0-0 libbeagle0 libbeecrypt6 libbind9-30 
  libbrlapi0.5 libcolorblind0 libcompress-raw-zlib-perl 
  libcompress-zlib-perl libdigest-hmac-perl libdigest-sha1-perl libdns32 
  libelf1 libespeak1 libexchange-storage1.2-3 libgnome-mag2 
  libgnome-pilot2 libgnome-speech7 libgnomeprint2.2-0 
  libgnomeprint2.2-data libgnomeprintui2.2-0 libgnomeprintui2.2-common 
  libgnomevfs2-bin libgtkglext1 libgtkhtml3.14-19 
  libgtksourceview-common libgtksourceview1.0-0 libgucharmap6 
  libio-compress-base-perl libio-compress-zlib-perl libio-zlib-perl 
  libisc32 libisccc30 libisccfg30 liblwres30 libmail-spf-query-perl 
  libnet-cidr-lite-perl libnet-dbus-perl libnet-dns-perl libnet-ip-perl 
  liboobs-1-3 libpisync0 librpm4.4 libsocket6-perl 
  libsys-hostname-long-perl libsys-syslog-perl libtie-ixhash-perl 
  libxevie1 libxml-parser-perl libxml-twig-perl libxml-xpath-perl lzop 
  ncompress p7zip pkg-config powermgmt-base python-beagle python-brlapi 
  python-ctypes python-fpconst python-gnome2-desktop python-gtkglext1 
  python-opengl python-setuptools python-soappy re2c rpm seahorse 
  spamassassin spamc system-tools-backends unace vino whois 
0 packages upgraded, 134 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 31.6MB/151MB of archives. After unpacking 403MB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  ekiga: Depends: libpt-1.10.10 (>= 1.10.10~) which is a virtual package. or
                  libpt-1.10.10-ptrace (>= 1.10.10~) which is a virtual package. or
                  libpt-1.10.10-develop (>= 1.10.10~) which is a virtual package.
  notification-daemon: Depends: libwnck18 (>= 2.14.0) but it is not installable
  gnome-power-manager: Depends: libwnck18 (>= 2.18.2) but it is not installable
  gok: Depends: libwnck18 (>= 2.18.2) but it is not installable
  gnome-system-monitor: Depends: libwnck18 (>= 2.15.90) but it is not installable
  libopal-2.2: Depends: libpt-1.10.10 (>= 1.10.10~) which is a virtual package. or
                        libpt-1.10.10-ptrace (>= 1.10.10~) which is a virtual package. or
                        libpt-1.10.10-develop (>= 1.10.10~) which is a virtual package.
  gnome-applets: Depends: libwnck18 (>= 2.18.2) but it is not installable
Resolving dependencies...
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

Keep the following packages at their current version:
ekiga [Not Installed]
evolution [Not Installed]
evolution-common [Not Installed]
evolution-plugins [Not Installed]
gnome-applets [Not Installed]
gnome-core [Not Installed]
gnome-desktop-environment [Not Installed]
gnome-power-manager [Not Installed]
gnome-system-monitor [Not Installed]
gok [Not Installed]
libopal-2.2 [Not Installed]
notification-daemon [Not Installed]

Score is -9782

Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]

If I remember correctly the original conflict was with the Ekiga and something in Gnome, and Synaptics solution was to remove them both (I think Aptitudes was to just leave them as is till the conflict resolved itself)

Is there anything I can do?

Thanks

David the H. · 09-29-2007, 06:36 AM

The first thing you should do when something gets broken is to run apt-get install -f, to see if it can fix anything.

Next, try installing/updating dependency packages separately, starting with ekiga. I've found that big dependency problems like this usually center on one or two packages and if you can find and resolve those, you can then move on to the bigger stuff. It may require you to uninstall some other program for a while though (one that might not yet be compatible with a newer version of a package), so there might be a trade-off involved.

Failing that, you should probably just wait until things get sorted out themselves, as you mentioned. In my experience it generally it takes less than a week or two. But of course there are no guarantees.

Finally, I suggest staying away from the dist-upgrade function as much as possible, or at least be very careful to watch what it wants to do. I'm pretty sure that's what caused your current troubles, since only dist-upgrade (called smart upgrade in synaptic) will remove packages. The regular upgrade function will only upgrade packages that don't have conflicts and leave the rest behind.

Zaskar · 10-07-2007, 11:38 AM

Still getting issues I cant resolve :/

Code:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  ekiga: Depends: libpt-1.10.10 (>= 1.10.10~) which is a virtual package. or
                  libpt-1.10.10-ptrace (>= 1.10.10~) which is a virtual package. or
                  libpt-1.10.10-develop (>= 1.10.10~) which is a virtual package.
  libopal-2.2: Depends: libpt-1.10.10 (>= 1.10.10~) which is a virtual package. or
                        libpt-1.10.10-ptrace (>= 1.10.10~) which is a virtual package. or
                        libpt-1.10.10-develop (>= 1.10.10~) which is a virtual package.
Resolving dependencies...
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

Keep the following packages at their current version:
ekiga [Not Installed]
gnome-desktop-environment [Not Installed]
libopal-2.2 [Not Installed]

Score is 137

Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]

David the H. · 10-07-2007, 01:58 PM

So move down the dependency chain. You need to do some detective work here. ekiga depends on libpt-1.10.10. So try to find out what's going on with it. Do you have a previous version of it installed? If so, what version? I'm not exactly sure what "virtual package" means in this situation, so you might try to find out.

According to the libpt-1.10 description, the package conflicts with libpt-1.10-ptrace and libpt-1.10-develop, so it looks like you can only have one of the three installed at a time, but any one of the three will satisfy ekiga (the descriptions make it clear that the latter two are simply the same library with debugging-type info compiled in). If you can install one of those, then you should be able to install libopal and ekiga, and finally perhaps get your gnome back.

It also says that it replaces libpt-1.8. If you have that installed, it needs to be removed before the new version can be installed. This might be a problem if you have any existing packages installed that depend on the 1.8 version, so you may have to choose to uninstall something else in order to upgrade this library.

All told, it's either keep hunting for the conflict and figure out how to fix it yourself, or sit back and wait for the package maintainers to sort it out.

Zaskar · 10-07-2007, 02:14 PM

Figured it out, and its not fixable

they require libpt-1.10.10, which simply isnt available atm, highest av available is libpt-1.10.0. Its been like 3 weeks also though which is kinda odd.

rickh · 10-07-2007, 02:30 PM

Looking at the Ekiga package info, it appears that it would work fine on the AMD64 version, but not i386.

Another in the growing list of applications in which AMD64 development is running ahead of i386.

linx win · 10-07-2007, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zaskar

Figured it out, and its not fixable

they require libpt-1.10.10, which simply isnt available atm, highest av available is libpt-1.10.0. Its been like 3 weeks also though which is kinda odd.

Did you try:

Code:

aptitude install gnome

?

I was able to get Gnome 2.20 installed on my sid system. Look here:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...e-2.18-589463/

David the H. · 10-07-2007, 03:18 PM

Aptitude is simply a front-end for apt. If the required library isn't available in the repositories, then nothing will work.

Anyway, you could locate and download the newest source for the library and compile it yourself. Then you could force-install gnome and it should work.

A better idea might be to simply downgrade to the last working version of gnome. Synaptic makes it easy, with an item in the "packages" menu to force the version. But you'll need to have a source for older packages to do it. You can get that from http://snapshot.debian.net/. You may need to add sources for some of the requirements as well, since some packages also have upper limits on version requirements.

But your best bet is simply to wait. The new version will show up eventually.