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minrich 12-22-2009 03:12 PM

Can I run kvpm on lenny with kde 3.5.10 ?
 
I would really like to run KDE's volume and partition manager aka kvpm on my Debian stable amd64 platform. at the moment I use an Opensuse 10.2's yast to manage my 2 lvm partitions. However the sourceforge page says that kvpm requires kde4 libraries and headers and I don't want to pollute my existing kde desktop just for one program.

Am I asking too much? I really don't want all the eye-candy that comes with kde4 - I tried it in Kubuntu karmic koala and my Ferrari lappy slowed to a crawl - I like plain out-and-out speed thanks very much.

Anybody know if I can find out the dependencies that a package such as kvpm has as I don't want to change my lenny/stable repositories.

Thanks in advance for any clues or pointers.

AleLinuxBSD 12-24-2009 02:09 AM

See where is the package:
Software Packages in "lenny"
After that click on the package link so you should redirect on a page that show you the dependencies.

minrich 12-24-2009 06:18 AM

thanks AleLinuxBSD for the link - I didn't know that facility existed, but unfortunately the kvpm package doesn't exist on any debian distros/suites on any architectures. Linux Googling for 'debian kvpm' only turns up ubuntu mentions of kvpm. It was when installing kubuntu karmic koala 9.10 64bit alphas and beta that I came across this package. Perhaps, I shall have to wait until kde4 becomes more prevalent. i know I can download a tar.gz from sourceforge but it doesn't tell me anywhere what dependencies it needs.

mark_alfred 12-24-2009 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minrich (Post 3801600)
Anybody know if I can find out the dependencies that a package such as kvpm has as I don't want to change my lenny/stable repositories.

I'm not sure if you can install it without adding (at least temporarily) to your repositories. You may need to have to have either backports or squeeze, to install some kde 4 libraries, if you wanted to install kvpm from source. I myself have Lenny, but decided to upgrade k9copy to the squeeze version; so, now k9copy indicates that it's a part of kde 4, while the other couple of kde programs I have (like kolour-paint and k3b) indicate that they are a part of kde 3.5. I don't actually use kde -- I use fluxbox -- but since I have a couple of kde programs, I also have some of the kde libraries installed (from both stable and testing).

It probably isn't worth the effort to do it, though, and I'm not sure how it would affect a system that is primarily kde.

Regarding if you can find out the dependencies, when you initially configure the source program (as regular user) it will tell you if anything was required for the compilation. As well, this site here states you require the following:

The following development headers need to be
installed for compilation:
libparted version 1.8 -- available in Lenny
libblkid-dev (could try the Lenny version, though you'll likely need the squeeze version)
kdelibs version 4 -- Lenny version, or squeeze version.

So, everything the site mentions that is needed for compiling the program is available in Lenny (that being, kdelibs4-dev, libblkid-dev, and libparted1.8-dev). Now, it may require newer versions of these packages than are available in Lenny, but in that case you could always try an earlier version of kvpm. I would say give it a try, and see if you can do it with the packages currently available in Lenny -- it may work. lvm2 for Lenny is sufficient, apparently (2.02-39); so, really, I can't see why, at this point, that it wouldn't work just using Lenny repositories.

Various choices are available here for the source.

knudfl 12-25-2009 06:31 AM

As # 4 .. + kdelibs-bin , kde(4)-devel.

This KDE4 "kde-devel" only available from 'experimental',
.. probably not usable with the Lenny 'libc6'.

Tried with Ubuntu 9.10, where the packages are present.
'kde-devel' installs all kde4, kate, kdm, everything. !

And 'kvpm' compiled OK, but didn't work. No GUI.
The only result starting it : Very disturbing noise
from the hardware.
.....

'kvpm' : No updates since 2008.
.....

minrich 01-03-2010 11:30 AM

Knudfl, thanks for trying for me, I think I will leave it for now as I don't have to have it - well at least not until I break anything - and I have to boot into another distro in order to 'dd' my Lenny partition to an external usb drive, on a weekly basis.

Perhaps, some day, I will venture back to kde4, but I really don't need all the fancy graphics - methinks there is a whiff of trying to compete with Redmond and I don't even both with 3D graphics, athough I know it worked perfectly well on my Opensuse 10.2 installation.

Thanks to all, for your responses, and a happy new year to you all.


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