I have tried burning one item and it still won't burn. There is a chance it is a hardware issue so I will put the burner into my other machine and see.

Did your Debian machine at least read cds correctly?
How were they mounted?

OK I will do a bit of a general test. Music factory made cd's mount fine and music plays, cdrw under system:Media it is unmounted and showing as a black which is correct-no option to mount when i right click, put in an install cd for windows version itunes and it mounted, put in an italian windows learning program cd and it mounted and last of all a blank cdr-straight off it makes a protesting sound(the drive) and the system shows it is a blank cdr but no option to mount when right clicked.

Sorry still haven't had a chance to wack it in the windows machine but it seems now it is not a hardware issue?

So let me make sure that we understand the situation. Correct any errors.

You have successfully burned DVDs
You have NOT successfully been able to burn your Ubuntu iso on CD
You are NOT sure if it is a good iso you are trying to burn
Your system reads DVDs and CDs just fine.
You no longer have the Ubuntu cd, and that's why you are trying to burn it.

What other items have you tried to burn on cd?
See if there is a md5sum you can check your iso against. Maybe you will need a new copy.

Yes I have burned dvd's.
Can't burn cd's because they don't mount properly anymore. That cd that I burned the iso onto was the last time I could do that. Now I cannot. That iso onto a cd(rewritable) didn't work (more info in previous posts about that).
The system doesn't read cd's properly or play music cd's as stated.
No I had a computer magazine dvd that had lots of stuff on it including the ubuntu iso. I gave that dvd away so I can't recopy it onto my hd to reburn. I still have the iso on my hd though and have tried to reburn it but it won't burn. I get that error stated previously.
Nothing burns onto cd now. The system doesn't fully mount cd's like it does with dvd's.
As states previously when I go to burn an iso that md5sum thing does it's job and I presume all is good. I have no idea what it is really but it gives me the go ahead to burn. What I might need a new copy of?

I thought you said they did read fine earlier. It definitely sounds like a good idea to try cds with this optical drive in other OSs.

Wouldn't that be a dvd iso, though? Even if it is small, couldn't you burn it on a dvd instead?

I was suggesting you compare the md5sum of your iso to an official release from Canonical (organization that makes Ubuntu). Sometimes, sites will list the md5ums of their files. I'm guessing that your's will not match up, though. Can you download a new iso?

If your optical drive's laser for cds is really burnt out then you might just have to use dvds. This linux.com article on Multiple live CDs in one DVD may be of interest to you.

Sorry maybe the cd's did mount earlier but things keep changing maybe and I don't remember as I am working on several machines right now.
Anyway the bad news is I have somehow gotten rid of that iso. I had an idea that I would put it on a data dvd and then put it on my windoze machine as that has a cd burner. The see how I go there. I don't know why I deleted the damn thing. Geez I have too much happening. So that is the end of the story as I have a strict 2gig internet usage there is no way i can get the iso from the net. Or a whole package of iso like in that multiple cd's on a live dvd thing. Good idea but here in Australia so many people are locking into usage limits like I am.
Anyway I Have learnt some things.
I think I did try to burn the iso on a dvd ....it didn't work from memory but I could be wrong. I know I thought of doing it but it is hard to remember now for sure.
OK I didn't know you could compare the md5sum with the conical site. I didn't see what result...like if there was a file saved from the md5sum. Sorry I still don't understand what it is. All I remember seeing from the burn app is there was the word 'md5sum' and a progress meter next to it then after that I could burn. There are so many things about linux I don't understand and it is having the time to explore everything.
Are you saying it is possible that the dvd drive has lost it's capability to burn cd's? Is that physically possible? Interesting. Ah well when I save up some money I may be able to get another as they are so cheap right now.

Yea, you are not the only one confused.

It might be a good idea in the future to write down the tests you have done and their result. Also, if you cannot download the ISO you need I am sure that you can order it. Canonical allows you to order it for free (could take up to 10 weeks for delivery) or purchase it (which I imagine would get higher priority for shipping). Just check the Ubuntu website for more information.

k3b does calculate the md5sum of the iso, but unless you compare it to something you will have no idea if it is correct. You can use md5sum in the commandline to calculate the md5sum as well. I am not sure if Canonical posts the md5sums for their iso images or not. Some sites do this, but not all.

Yes, your computer components are mechanical and electrical tools that can and will eventually fail. So, it is quite possible that your optical drive is failing on you.

I have had so many things go wrong on the machine with Debian that it is hard to keep up. As sometimes there is so much unecessary information that I report(as i have been told on forums) then I don't know what to report anymore. I just don't know enough about Linux yet!
Yeah I think I have read somewhere about opensource software being available that way but I think I always had problems with it. Can't remember how. I got my first distros from a friend and he installed Debian for me the first time but now it is hard to get his help.
OK well I will still find time to put the dvd drive in my windoze box and see what happens.
Thanks!!!
Well I put the dvd burner in my windoze machine and had almost the same problem. I got a little further in that it looked like it was going to burn a cd for me but then just before the end it stopped. I got the log file from it and this is what it says:
home
1A20-020N-0132-2525-1258-0359*

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 27/10/2004 2:35:32 AM
Nero Version: 6.6.0.15
Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 15e
(Nero Express)
Recorder: <PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109> Version: 1.40 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.15
Adapter driver: <IdeChnDr> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2000kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
CD-ROM: <PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109 >Version: 1.40 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.15
Adapter driver: <IdeChnDr> HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : ST320011A IdeChnDr Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : ST340014A IdeChnDr Port 0 ID 1 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109 IdeChnDr Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109 D: CDRom0
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 511MB (523536kB)
Free physical memory: 198MB (202836kB)
Memory in use : 61 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

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Iso document burn settings
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Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : FALSE
Multisession : TRUE
Multisession type: : Start multisession
Burning mode : TAO
Mode : 1
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet : TRUE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

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PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109
Buffer underrun protection activated

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Reader running

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Writer PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109 running

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First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

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Turn on Track-At-Once, using CD-R/RW media

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Last possible write address on media: 359848 ( 79:59.73)
Last address to be written: 276614 ( 61:30.14)

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Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

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Recorder: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109;
CDR code: 00 97 27 18; OSJ entry from: Plasmon Data systems Ltd.
ATIP Data:
Special Info [hex] 1: D0 00 A0, 2: 61 1B 12 (LI 97:27.18), 3: 4F 3B 4A (LO 79:59.74)
Additional Info [hex] 1: FF FF FF (invalid), 2: FF FF FF (invalid), 3: FF FF FF (invalid)

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>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
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Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 276615 (276615) = #276615/61:28.15
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 276613 blocks [PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109]
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Prepare recorder [PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109] for write in TAO
DAO infos:
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MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc not fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 307200 566814720, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
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__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
-150 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
-150 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
276615 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

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Removed 2 run-out blocks from end of track 1. Length: 276615 -> 276613.

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Caching of files started

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Cache writing successful.

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Caching of files completed

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Burn process started at 4x (600 KB/s)

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Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

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Set BUFE: Buffer underrun protection -> ON

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1:24:29 AM #112 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1288
01:24:29.734 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

1:24:30 AM #113 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1288
01:24:30.140 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

1:24:30 AM #114 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1288
01:24:30.468 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

1:25:38 AM #115 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1288
01:25:38.281 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

1:25:40 AM #116 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1288
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1:25:40 AM #117 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1288
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1:25:40 AM #118 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1288
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1:25:41 AM #119 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1288
01:25:41.093 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

1:34:46 AM #120 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion

1:34:59 AM #121 SCSI -1189 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1182
SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x037B4C00
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x30
Sense Qual: 0x02
CDB Data: 0x51 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0E
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x30 0x02

1:34:59 AM #122 CDR -1189 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2088
Cannot read disc - incompatible format

1:34:59 AM #123 TRANSFER -18 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2088
Could not perform EndTrack

1:34:59 AM #124 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 16275
<PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109 > start Close Session

1:35:01 AM #125 SCSI -1176 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1182
SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x037B4C00
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x72
Sense Qual: 0x03
CDB Data: 0x51 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x71 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0E
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x72 0x03

1:35:01 AM #126 CDR -1176 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 249
Session fixation error

1:35:01 AM #127 TRANSFER -19 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 249
Could not perform Fixation

1:35:01 AM #128 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 258
falling back to disc fixation

1:35:01 AM #129 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 16275
<PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109 > start Close Session

1:36:33 AM #130 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process failed at 4x (600 KB/s)


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\CDRALW2K.SYS': Ver=8.0.0.212 , size=9464 bytes, created 12/12/2007 8:34:52 AM
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=3.00.56a, size=43528 bytes, created 12/12/2007 8:34:50 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
File 'Drivers\IdeChnDr.sys': Ver=2.3.0.2160, 10/01/2002, size=101431 bytes, created 14/10/2002 11:00:00 PM (Adapter driver for rec)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)