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01-23-2007, 10:35 AM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 17
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Best virtual machine software?
I'm weaning myself off windows as much as I can, and I'm long overdue for a rebuild. So this time I want to splat my windows box and have 2 linux ones instead. But I might need to go back for certain apps that aren't supported for linux so I'll need to emulate XP.
Now under XP, VMware is the weapon of choice and seems to install any guest OS flawlessly and runs fairly quick.
What's the best virtual pc software for Debian? Is there any? Are they any good? Or am I better off keeping a seperate windows box (which I dont'really want to do)?
Thanks
Mors
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01-23-2007, 10:56 AM
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Senior Member
Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Trondheim, Norway
Distribution: Debian and Ubuntu
Posts: 1,010
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Hi
If you like VMWare for Windows, why not stick with it? You just need to get the Linux version of it, not the Windows version.
Another option is dual booting - however, it's not very good option if you need Windows often.
A third option is using Wine - a lot of Windows programs work, but not all.
So I guess it depends on what Windows program you need to run and how often.
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01-23-2007, 11:06 AM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 17
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How easy is it to install the vmware version under debian?
Mors
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01-23-2007, 11:12 AM
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Senior Member
Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Trondheim, Norway
Distribution: Debian and Ubuntu
Posts: 1,010
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I installed an old version a long time ago. It wasn't very hard then, and I would think it's easier now with the newer versions.
If I were you, I'd give a trial version a try. But now they've changed into many different versions of VMWare, and sorry I don't know much about it. If you get problems, just post, and someone probably knows? Of course, reading the documentation also helps.
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01-25-2007, 11:19 AM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 17
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I've tried workstation and server and my install and it didn't like it at all. I then tried it on an Ubuntu install and it went through like a breeze.
Don't really want to go over to Ubuntu, as my hdd install came off knoppix
Mors
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01-25-2007, 12:56 PM
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Registered: Dec 2005
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You may try Qemu: http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/ It's largely free, works on Sarge (and I presume also on Etch, never tried that though) but you need a propriety kernel module to get some serious speed.
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01-26-2007, 05:07 AM
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Senior Member
Registered: Oct 2003
Location: Bonaire
Distribution: Debian Lenny/Squeeze/Wheezy/Sid
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I did a vmware server install on Debian Etch, running W2k now, no problems. It is as good as running a separate machine. You have to have at least 512 + 256 MB of RAM though, for XP I assume that is 512 + 512 MB.
jlinkels
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01-26-2007, 10:58 AM
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Registered: Dec 2002
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Might be because I did the install from Knoppix. I'll have a dummy run with the full Debian distro the weekend and see if likes vmware that way. Bit annoying that it worked straight off with the Ubuntu hd install but not knoppix :/
Mors
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01-26-2007, 01:21 PM
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Senior Member
Registered: Feb 2002
Distribution: t2 - trying to anyway
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kvm seems the latest virtual machine that should outperform the others (at least on paper) but you'll need a processor that supports virtualization.
Setup for qemu and kvm is pretty easy with sid.Dunno about stable.
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12-28-2007, 10:10 AM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Aug 2007
Location: Texas
Distribution: Debian Testing/Sid
Posts: 28
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I have tried Virtualbox and vmware-server. Vmware-server is the way to go between the two. Works great.
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12-28-2007, 11:46 AM
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Registered: Feb 2002
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Mind to elaborate.....
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12-28-2007, 12:09 PM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Aug 2007
Location: Texas
Distribution: Debian Testing/Sid
Posts: 28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by crashmeister
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Not at all ...
With VB I could never get USB to work on the guest. I'm sure you can make it work, and I did hunt for solutions. There were quite a few which makes me believe this is a global issue with this application.
I installed vmware-server and it worked fine without me having to do any /thinking/. That was the deal breaker for me.
Another item is support. If I need it, vmware is extremely popular and there is a lot of documentation to support it.
I have been a developer for 26 years and I would expect USB to be a 'given' that it works without having to do tinkering to make it work.
There are a few other minor annoyances with VB, but nothing worth mentioning.
Last edited by txHarleyMan; 12-28-2007 at 12:21 PM.
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12-28-2007, 12:55 PM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Jan 2005
Distribution: sidux
Posts: 8
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I use virtualbox in my debian sid (sidux). Works like a charm, i have no problems with usb.
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12-28-2007, 03:19 PM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Aug 2007
Location: Texas
Distribution: Debian Testing/Sid
Posts: 28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rasmax
I use virtualbox in my debian sid (sidux). Works like a charm, i have no problems with usb.
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Great! Wouldn't work for me at all. Did you have to do any configuration to get it working? Or did it just work?
Mike
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