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Old 04-28-2013, 05:43 PM   #1
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Smile *** basic debain bootloader question ***


it seems like the debain loader already has a in-built way of partitioning.

when you reboot, it gives you the option to boot into windows or to parition for space.

is this correct?

and where can i find the recommeded gb to allocate for each linux distro?

also any reason why many guides (of distro that debain-based) recommend a parition program to parition when it actually is already built-in? maybe because they are just bad guides?

should you parition with MiniTool%20Partition%20Wizard%20Home%20Edition first? dottech. org/95676/windows-best-free-partition-and-disk-manager-review/

good links and guides that directly answers these are welcome and helpful

*** basic debain bootloader question ***
 
Old 04-28-2013, 05:50 PM   #2
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The debian installer disk can make partitions but as far as I know, it can't resize partitions so thats why you need a partitioning program. I would recommend using gparted off of a livecd(a lot of distros have a livecd version that can do this) to partition your drive. The amount of space you dedicate to linux depends on a) how much disk space you have and b) what you want to do with it. I would say you probably want to give it at least 30 gb to give you room to fool around.
 
Old 04-28-2013, 07:50 PM   #3
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im running and installing all the linux iso with a iso emulator, which runs and installs isos

but it doesnt seem to work the same as installing most iso, in most iso, it autoplays and installs

in this one, it installs a bootloader and tells me to reboot

this is on win 7

so after rebooting, it dont look like you can partionin since you cant even resize...

any program for win 7 that would be good? maybe one of these dottech. org/95676/windows-best-free-partition-and-disk-manager-review/
 
Old 04-28-2013, 10:23 PM   #4
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I don't think you can use the debian disk in an 'iso emulator', you have to burn the iso as an image to the disk and start off from it. I would recommend using gparted from a livecd like I said in my previous post to repartition your harddrive.
 
Old 04-28-2013, 10:45 PM   #5
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The debian installer disk can make partitions but as far as I know, it can't resize partitions so thats why you need a partitioning program.
Debian installer can resize a partition no one ever talks about it, you have to select desired partition & look at options. I only found out today, only because of the statement.
So I thank you, because I thought it was only available in Ubuntu.

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Old 04-28-2013, 11:21 PM   #6
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why use gparted?

i need a good guide providing a clear reason as to why (you also gave inaccurate info) so i have to be more careful now ^_^
 
Old 04-28-2013, 11:41 PM   #7
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i need a good guide providing a clear reason as to why (you also gave inaccurate info) so i have to be more careful now ^_^
What do you mean?
If you mean this
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The debian installer disk can make partitions but as far as I know, it can't resize partitions so thats why you need a partitioning program
A lot of people don't know that debian installer resizes & I myself standby gparted-live.

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Old 04-28-2013, 11:57 PM   #8
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Why using gparted? Mainly because it's easier to use than Debian's text installer partition tool. Even after years of using and installing Linux, I prefer to use gparted from a live-cd when I have to create or manipulate partitions, so as to avoid making fatal mistakes that can cause data loss. Of course, you can use the installer's partition tool if you know what you're doing (and backing up your important data first).
 
Old 04-29-2013, 12:52 AM   #9
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why use gparted?

i need a good guide providing a clear reason as to why (you also gave inaccurate info) so i have to be more careful now ^_^
You can use whatever partitioning tool you like but gparted does work very well.
 
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Old 04-29-2013, 02:23 AM   #10
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why use gparted?

i need a good guide providing a clear reason as to why (you also gave inaccurate info) so i have to be more careful now ^_^
Stop trolling and wasting people's time and go away and do some research for yourself.
 
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Old 04-29-2013, 02:37 AM   #11
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He has done some "research". Here, LF, DFN, DUF, others?
Perhaps StartPage and DuckDuckGo are next?
 
Old 04-29-2013, 02:50 AM   #12
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why use gparted?
I've done a lot of Linux installations over the past several years, as have others here. Sure, feel free to create your partitions with whatever tool you want to use. However: I, too, prefer to use GParted from a live session to set up my partitions -- before running the installer. In my humble opinion, GParted is the best tool for the job.
 
Old 04-29-2013, 02:24 PM   #13
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Why using gparted? Mainly because it's easier to use than Debian's text installer partition tool.
Debian also includes graphical installer with a graphical partition tool.

All thi about using tools to resize, but it would be helpful to know what version of Windows the OP is using. Since Vista the Computer Management application's Disk Management tool has the ability to resize partitions. Now I hate to say it but IMO one of the better tools to resize a FAT/NTFS partition is Windows' own. It does have restrictions, but it's worth a try before delving into others.

Now with the unpartitioned space, use Debian's graphical installer and graphical partitioner to set up partitions for Debian.
 
  


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