'emacs&' doesn't work

vharishankar · 05-30-2005, 11:19 PM

You can always use XEmacs which opens emacs in a window in the X environment.

verbose · 05-31-2005, 12:35 AM

That is ture, but it's more a matter of whether or not I should have to. I shouldn't have to use Xemacs and therefore, I'd like to resolve this problem. It is a worthy contribution, however. I have thought before of using Xemacs but would rather stick with Emacs (not knowing much about Xemacs).

vharishankar · 05-31-2005, 12:37 AM

Emacs will run only in a terminal, I think. How can it run in its "own" Window unless it's a GUI app? It's a text-based application, is it not?

vharishankar · 05-31-2005, 12:39 AM

By the way, when I run emacs & in a terminal, it opens the XEmacs.

XEmacs is nothing more than Emacs packaged in a X window rather than a terminal window. I don't think there are any differences between the two.

verbose · 05-31-2005, 01:00 AM

That's true. So you think the only workaround is using Xemacs instead of Emacs, eh. The frustrating part of this is that I'm positive I have gotten this to work before when using a different distribution.

I just installed Xemacs and it looks nothing like what I'm accustomed to. I seriously doubt this is what emacs& launched when I had it working before. I have to say that I do not like the graphical representation of Xemacs nearly as much as Emacs, as it is much more bloated

The following is a quote from the 'Emacs Manual':

Quote:

If you run Emacs from a shell window under the X Window System, run it in the background with emacs&. This way, Emacs does not tie up the shell window, so you can use that to run other shell commands while Emacs operates its own X windows. You can begin typing Emacs commands as soon as you direct your keyboard input to the Emacs frame.

Thanks

vharishankar · 05-31-2005, 01:52 AM

The behaviour of Emacs seem rather different on my system than on yours.

When I run emacs in a console (not X) then the normal emacs21 opens.

When I run emacs from a terminal in X, then the emacs21-x runs in a separate window.

There is a menu in Debian

KDE Start -> Debian -> Apps -> Editors -> Emacs21 (text)
KDE Start -> Debian -> Apps -> Editors -> Emacs21 (X11)

You can launch it from there and see rather than opening a terminal and typing emacs.

This way you can avoid your problem altogether!

verbose · 06-01-2005, 03:37 AM

Quote:

KDE Start -> Debian -> Apps -> Editors -> Emacs21 (text)
KDE Start -> Debian -> Apps -> Editors -> Emacs21 (X11)

I see no Emacs21 here, only XEmacs21-mule.

I don't know what the deal is...

vharishankar · 06-01-2005, 03:49 AM

Ok, it seems that I don't have the XEmacs installed on my system as those packages are not installed. Just plain emacs.

Then what was the emacs window that opened for me in X? Maybe that is just plain emacs in an X Window. Maybe that is what you wanted.

These are the three emacs executables I have in my system:

Code:

emacs
emacs21-x
emacs21

What are the emacs executables that you have on your system?

vharishankar · 06-01-2005, 03:53 AM

I believe there are two versions of emacs. One compiled with support for X and the package you need is probably emacs21-nox if you don't need X support at all. Which version of emacs do you have installed? Check in your synaptic package manager and see.

verbose · 06-01-2005, 04:15 AM

I definitely think you're on to something (thems gold in these here hills).
When searching synaptic for emacs I find the following packages are installed:
emacsen-common
xemacs [...]

It doesn't show emacs21 as being installed but that's because synaptic correlates with apt-get. I installed Emacs from source and Xemacs using apt-get.

I am going to uninstall Emacs and install using apt-get.

Thanks

verbose · 06-01-2005, 04:34 AM

I finally got it to work by installing with apt-get.

Thanks for you dedicated help.

vharishankar · 06-01-2005, 05:06 AM

Glad to know that you got it working

lsj · 06-01-2005, 07:20 AM

i have the similar problem with my stardict.
i have to launch stardict two times untile it shows up.