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Old 02-06-2010, 07:13 PM   #31
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I have no idea what is going on in the DSL community, AFAIK it's dead. The "Super Administrator" on there hasn't logged in since a year ago. And I can't read what's in the link that was given above, distro watch is having an internal server error.

If someone could enlighten me as to what is going on, that would be great.
 
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Old 02-07-2010, 03:48 AM   #32
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tgp,
Shame about the broken link into distro watch. As I recall it the article explained a lot. Essentially there was a parting of the ways for the project owner and the main contributor. That basically killed DSL. I think it was the main contributor who now has something to do with (probably a big understatement!) Tiny Core Linux.

If you are looking for something like DSL was then have a look at TC.

Cheers,
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Old 02-07-2010, 10:11 AM   #33
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Shame about the broken link into distro watch. As I recall it the article explained a lot. Essentially there was a parting of the ways for the project owner and the main contributor. That basically killed DSL. I think it was the main contributor who now has something to do with (probably a big understatement!) Tiny Core Linux.

If you are looking for something like DSL was then have a look at TC.

Cheers,
Daniel.
So I looked around on TC's website, and I was hoping you could answer this for me; Does TC allow installing to the hard drive exactly as DSL does? I'm not saying a frugal install, but a full install.
 
Old 02-08-2010, 12:16 PM   #34
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So I looked around on TC's website, and I was hoping you could answer this for me; Does TC allow installing to the hard drive exactly as DSL does? I'm not saying a frugal install, but a full install.
I think so. Give me a few minutes while I fire up the VM...
 
Old 02-08-2010, 12:35 PM   #35
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I couldn't find any documentation to that effect. Frugal install is easy, but since it boots to ramdisk it would take a fair bit of tweaking of grub and init scripts to get a conventional HD install, and you would lose many of the advantages of running in RAM.
 
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So I looked around on TC's website, and I was hoping you could answer this for me; Does TC allow installing to the hard drive exactly as DSL does? I'm not saying a frugal install, but a full install.
As noted by JimBrewster, there doesn't appear to be any documentation on the TC site for what you seem to be asking for. Can I suggest that you may get a clearer answer from the TC websites own FAQ's, Forum and Wiki?

All the best,
Daniel.
 
Old 02-08-2010, 04:17 PM   #37
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Ya, I did browse their FAQs and wiki quite a bit, but I will give their forums a shot. Thank you both.

EDIT: A quick search on their forums reveals this. It's a short and useful tutorial on how to do an HD (non-ramdisk) install for TCL. In short the author has you copy tinycore.gz to the root of a partition, you unpack it, then modify the grub menu file to boot only from the kernel. I thought the linux kernel would panick if there wasn't an initrd image specified, but I'm learning something new everyday

And sorry for throwing the topic offtrack, not like it was really going anywhere though.

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Old 02-09-2010, 04:36 AM   #38
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Thanks, tgp1994. That is very interesting. Perhaps just as interesting is the reaction of the admins!

Think I'll give it a try in my spare time. Since I'm running it on a VM right now, the memory savings might be beneficial...
 
Old 02-09-2010, 04:52 AM   #39
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Worked well to do this on my Compaq desktop with vista. Triple booting Vista on HDD and Ubuntu via wubi, and Neosmart add Neogrub(Grub4DOS and the menu.lst looks like

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title tinycore
kernel /tinycore/bzImage
initrd /tinycore/tinycore.gz
boot
Boots rather fast and one can add what one want. kmaps was tricky for a newbie though. Firefox went easy to install.
 
Old 02-09-2010, 07:23 PM   #40
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Perhaps just as interesting is the reaction of the admins!
What do you mean?

@nooby: That actually doesn't seem to be using the no-ramdisk method since you still have initrd in the boot loading process.
 
Old 02-10-2010, 03:28 AM   #41
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@nooby: That actually doesn't seem to be using the no-ramdisk method since you still have initrd in the boot loading process.
I will explain that one better when I have more knowledge. I agree it show how confusing my brain is. Sad is it not?
 
Old 02-10-2010, 08:29 AM   #42
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I will explain that one better when I have more knowledge. I agree it show how confusing my brain is. Sad is it not?
No, I understood you, I just don't see how running it in a ramdisk is supposed to be faster than the no-ramdisk method.
 
Old 02-11-2010, 01:45 PM   #43
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I have forgotten what I meant by it. I drop it. You can PM me if you need to talk about it further.

Back on topic

the very very good thing about the DSL thing is that it freed the chief developer??? RobertS to do what he wanted to do. So he started the Tiny Core Linux and got people who supports him in his efforts and AFAIK these people are very enthusiastic about what they are up to and a lively forum with friendly people. RobertS are active in it too so all is going well for him now when he doesn't have to deal with DSL anymore. so it was a good thing that happen in the end.

One should see possibilities in the problems. They can point to other ways of doing things. RobertS seems to be good at seeing possibilities and to find alternative solutions so all power to him. *Friendly Smile*

Wish I had something of that too. Sadly I have to be happy if I get anything going on my puters.
 
Old 02-16-2010, 07:56 AM   #44
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tgp1994, as an alternative to tinycore have you looked into SliTaz? Of interest is the HD Installation page, which describes a full (not frugal) install that takes up about 80 MB.

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Old 02-16-2010, 02:18 PM   #45
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Alright, I will take a look at it, thank you. You might want to check your first link, it eventually redirects to a meds website.
 
  


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