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01-18-2006, 10:09 PM
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Registered: Oct 2004
Location: New Jersey
Distribution: SuSE 10.0
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Manual Frugal Install
I'm planning to make my laptop a triple-boot computer with Suse 10.0, DSL 2.0, and Windows XP. I would like to be able to have the control of the normal frugal install but I want the boot files to be compatible with GRUB so I can add DSL to the list. I already have my hard disc partitioned and Windows and Suse have already been installed. Here's the partitioning tables:
hda1 - Windows
hda2 - /
hda3 - /mnt/dsl (Contains the DSL image)
hda5 - /home (Also contains the backup files for DSL as well as /home, /opt, and /dsl for DSL)
hda6 - swap
As I have discovered, the normal frugal install script uses LILO as a bootloader which won't work with GRUB installed by Suse. Also, I prefer GRUB over LILO. As for the GRUB frugal install script, it didn't have all the options in the normal script.
Could someone tell me what I commands I need to execute to have the same effect as the normal frugal install script but will allow me to use GRUB as the bootloader?
Last edited by Rªdical_£D; 01-19-2006 at 09:45 AM.
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01-21-2006, 12:45 PM
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Registered: Oct 2004
Location: New Jersey
Distribution: SuSE 10.0
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I tried the GRUB version but it would not let set the preboot options like dma, toram, /home=hda5, /opt=hda5, etc.
Last edited by Rªdical_£D; 01-21-2006 at 01:43 PM.
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01-21-2006, 06:36 PM
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Registered: May 2005
Distribution: Ubuntu, Jolicloud
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I know its not the answer your looking for, but you can use the grub version and enter in the options manually by editing the file.
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01-22-2006, 01:41 PM
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Location: New Jersey
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And which file would that be? I never realy got to use DSL that much so I don't know that much about the DSL filesystem. Also, how do set where to mount /dsl since from what I could gather from the LILO install script, /dsl mount point has it's own script option.
The thing though is that since I already have GRUB installed with Suse, I don't want DSL to install its own version of GRUB. And note that this is being installed on a laptop WITHOUT a floppy drive. All I really is just a DSL frugal install that will allow me to add it Suse's version of GRUB.
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03-19-2006, 05:46 PM
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Location: Maine, USA
Distribution: Slackware/SuSE/DSL
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If you have grub already installed, you can use that to boot DSL. This is the way I've been running DSL since version 0.7, and it works fine. You'll just need to edit Suse's /boot/grub/menu.lst to add a section for DSL.
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03-19-2006, 06:43 PM
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Location: Australia
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or add an entry to chainload with the bootloader for dsl placed in the partition you install to
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03-27-2006, 11:40 PM
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Prince Rupert, B.C., Canada
Distribution: Slackware, OpenBSD
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DSL on a Pll 266
Hi,
I've got an old Pll 266, 128 MB RAM, 4 GB HD that Id like to try DSL on. I've looked on the DSL main page, but, can't find any installation documentation.
Could anyone please give me a link to an install howto? Right now my distros are slackware and debian.
I'm intereseted in trying out DSL.
Thanks for any and all replies.
hitest
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03-28-2006, 08:56 AM
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Since DSL was originally developed as a liveCD, you can try it out by burning the ISO and booting that.
There are scripts available from the desktop menu that will help you to install to disk.
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03-28-2006, 06:10 PM
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Prince Rupert, B.C., Canada
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Originally Posted by mikshaw
Since DSL was originally developed as a liveCD, you can try it out by burning the ISO and booting that.
There are scripts available from the desktop menu that will help you to install to disk.
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Thanks, mikshaw! I'll give that a try. 
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09-17-2006, 11:31 AM
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Registered: Feb 2005
Location: san antonio, texas
Distribution: Fedora 64 bit RAID0 + LUKS, CentOS (server), Backtrack, Gentoo Hardened
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What is meant by this?
For memory savings, there is the option to have a persistent /home and /opt directory on a partition. This is a way to run a practically bulletproof system.
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09-17-2006, 12:01 PM
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Location: san antonio, texas
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I am attempting to do a frugal install similar to a knoppix poorman's install of DSL. I am unsure what to do. The directions from here are incomplete and unclear on some things.
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/...rugalHowto.pdf
I am probably not doing this exactly the way this guide intended, but it unclear on what should be done, so I am not sure. Here is what I have done.
I added the hard drive I plan on using to another working computer with Debian Etch testing unstable. The computer for DSL can boot from a cd, but my cd burner is bad, so I couldn't create a DSL cd. How else am I going to put the cd image on the partition created for it? I used fdisk to create the partitions. After using fdisk I did these things.
Code:
debian:~# mke2fs /dev/hda1
mke2fs 1.39 (29-May-2006)
Filesystem label=
OS type: Linux
Block size=1024 (log=0)
Fragment size=1024 (log=0)
14056 inodes, 56224 blocks
2811 blocks (5.00%) reserved for the super user
First data block=1
Maximum filesystem blocks=57671680
7 block groups
8192 blocks per group, 8192 fragments per group
2008 inodes per group
Superblock backups stored on blocks:
8193, 24577, 40961
Writing inode tables: done
Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information: done
This filesystem will be automatically checked every 21 mounts or
180 days, whichever comes first. Use tune2fs -c or -i to override.
debian:~# fdisk -l
Disk /dev/sda: 320.0 GB, 320072933376 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 14599 38913 195310237+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda2 14356 14598 1951897+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda3 * 1 14355 115306506 83 Linux
Partition table entries are not in disk order
Disk /dev/hda: 853 MB, 853622784 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 103 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hda1 * 97 103 56227+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda2 67 96 240975 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/hda3 1 66 530113+ 83 Linux
Partition table entries are not in disk order
debian:~# mke2fs /dev/hda3
mke2fs 1.39 (29-May-2006)
Filesystem label=
OS type: Linux
Block size=4096 (log=2)
Fragment size=4096 (log=2)
66400 inodes, 132528 blocks
6626 blocks (5.00%) reserved for the super user
First data block=0
Maximum filesystem blocks=138412032
5 block groups
32768 blocks per group, 32768 fragments per group
13280 inodes per group
Superblock backups stored on blocks:
32768, 98304
Writing inode tables: done
Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information: done
This filesystem will be automatically checked every 34 mounts or
180 days, whichever comes first. Use tune2fs -c or -i to override.
debian:~# fdisk -l
Disk /dev/sda: 320.0 GB, 320072933376 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 14599 38913 195310237+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda2 14356 14598 1951897+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda3 * 1 14355 115306506 83 Linux
Partition table entries are not in disk order
Disk /dev/hda: 853 MB, 853622784 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 103 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hda1 * 97 103 56227+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda2 67 96 240975 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/hda3 1 66 530113+ 83 Linux
Partition table entries are not in disk order
debian:~# mkswap /dev/hda2
Setting up swapspace version 1, size = 246751 kB
no label, UUID=fbb76280-ce93-4fd8-94dd-a40985c9dbd3
debian:~# swapon /dev/hda2
What's next? I need a lot of information and the complete process. Thanks. Also, if it were possible to do a network installation of DSL, then I would do it, but I have not figured out how to do that yet after looking all over the place.
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