I have been trying out a few CD rippers. One or two ripped the songs as "ogg" which is fine for playing them on the computer, but I wanted the songs as mp3 for my player. I know this isn't a problem because I now have programs to convert audio to nearly anything. As for time, it's a lot better if I can just rip straight to mp3. So! after trying a few I ended up with "Ripper X". You can't get much easier than this program. So mission accomplished, my "Joy Division" CD's into mp3, so I can now lay back in comfort and listen to some classics, like "Dead Souls" and "New Dawn Fades". By the way if you listen to Dead Souls, stick with it as the vocals don't come in until two minutes, as Ian Curtis is doing his crazy dance.
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