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  1. Old Comment
    Posted 08-18-2014 at 02:09 PM by the dsc the dsc is offline
  2. Old Comment

    Good-bye Debian

    Gnome itself will eventually become it's own thing, either a linux distribution itself, or perhaps even an entire different OS.

    I'm not that happy with systemd, but, as a non-developer, not highly technical user, I'm not entirely against it either (I've found quite cool the embedded featurettes to "benchmark" the boot process. I never had the time to make the equivalents work with sysv, but with systemd it "just worked"). But indeed it used to be that I'd not have this sort of issue I'm having sometimes (PC only halts instead of shutting down, despite of the correct command), even in the "testing" line of Debian. I must concede though that it's not exactly shocking since sysvinit was quite well-developed already and one wouldn't expect such problems, even in Debian testing, unless they were implementing many independent "hacks" on sysv. Possibly these things happened in the early days of sysv too.

    Hopefully it eventually gets good enough. And Debian manages to save itself from the worst aspects of Ubuntu, actually influencing it positively instead. Or something somewhat closer this ideal scenario than the worst case scenario.
    Posted 08-18-2014 at 02:03 PM by the dsc the dsc is offline
    Updated 08-18-2014 at 02:05 PM by the dsc
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    Topics I am sick of.

    "Year of Linux on the Desktop"...pfffft. Proponents of that have been screaming about market share and other nonsense for literally over a decade now. What was once a really cool OS has become exactly what I dropped when I stopped using Windows ME.

    To quote Michael W Lucas's twitter feed this morning 'Dear #systemd refugees: BSD welcomes you.'
    Posted 08-18-2014 at 10:16 AM by rocket357 rocket357 is offline
  4. Old Comment

    Good-bye Debian

    Meh, I'll keep running Puppy Linux on a partition for grins.
    Posted 08-18-2014 at 09:48 AM by rokytnji rokytnji is offline
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    Topics I am sick of.

    Welcome to becoming mainstream.

    Every "this is the year of the linux desktop" dream.

    All I gotta say.

    Ha, Ha, Ha. Careful what ya wish for.
    Posted 08-18-2014 at 09:46 AM by rokytnji rokytnji is offline
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    Good-bye Debian

    Hopefully systems like Slackware, Gentoo and Crux can stay away from it, but once systemd becomes entrenched to the point that applications are dependent on it, avoiding it may not be possible. Gnome for example. No systemd, no Gnome. If distros continue offering Gnome, they must use systemd. Other software must then also be systemd-compatible. I do not like following this line of reason to its ultimate conclusion.
    Posted 08-17-2014 at 05:11 PM by Randicus Draco Albus Randicus Draco Albus is offline
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    Topics I am sick of.

    I definitely do not advocate competing with anyone. I disagree with enticing Windows users by offering Windows clones. Offer a good system. People who want to use something different and better will use it. Focusing on making it easy to use Windows applications with Linux is stupid. If someone is going to use Windows applications, the best course of action is to continue using Windows.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by brianL View Comment
    I'd like to see an end to "Which Linux is best" questions. Have people lost the abilities to think for themselves, try, and choose?
    Visiting a few web sites and reading about those distributions is too quick and easy. It makes more sense to post a question and wait several days for people to post the information. At least it makes sense to those who want others to do their thinking for them.
    Posted 08-17-2014 at 05:04 PM by Randicus Draco Albus Randicus Draco Albus is offline
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    Good-bye Debian

    Slackware should be a good safe haven for refugees fleeing from systemd. It would have to be an absolutely no-choice, inevitable situation for it to get adopted by Slackware. Alien Bob comments on that open letter in his blog, Alien Pastures:
    http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/
    Posted 08-17-2014 at 11:48 AM by brianL brianL is offline
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    Topics I am sick of.

    I much agree with you, linux organisations should present a united front in public and compete with their main competitor, Microsoft, on the grounds technical superiority and advanced features ,rather that on who shouts loudest.
    Posted 08-17-2014 at 09:36 AM by DarrenDrapkin DarrenDrapkin is offline
  10. Old Comment

    Topics I am sick of.

    I'd like to see an end to "Which Linux is best" questions. Have people lost the abilities to think for themselves, try, and choose?
    As for dual-booting information, years ago when I was doing it, there was MASSES of information about how to do it out there on the internetwebthingy. UEFI/Secure Boot might have added some complications, but a websearch should be all that's required.
    Posted 08-17-2014 at 06:58 AM by brianL brianL is offline
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    Good-bye Debian

    Yes, Red Hat has done a wonderful job of promoting their shit. Apparently it is quite easy to brainwash people into believing it is up to non-believers to prove that the new thing is not sufficiently better than the old to warrant it replacing the old thing. I always thought the onus was on the believers to prove the new thing is so much better than the old that it should be adopted, but I am old-fashioned.

    Unfortunately, the day may come when there will be no alternative. Of course, the destruction of Linux was inevitable. As Linux gained a little popularity, corporate interests got involved, made changes to "polish" the system and attract Windows users with a free (no money, who gives a shit about free software) so they could could make more money. Systemd is simply a symptom of the problem. The future of Linux is bleak. Soon Linux will consist of three locked-down corporate systems competing with Windows and Apple.
    Posted 08-16-2014 at 05:47 PM by Randicus Draco Albus Randicus Draco Albus is offline
  12. Old Comment

    Good-bye Debian

    Aren't most Linux distros jumping on the systemd bandwagon, or worse, if they haven't yet, aren't they going to *have to*?
    Posted 08-16-2014 at 03:03 PM by rocket357 rocket357 is offline
  13. Old Comment

    Good-bye Debian

    That letter showed up yesterday in a an on-going discussion on the smaller Debian forum. Quite a few long-time Debian users are worried about the distribution's future.
    Posted 08-14-2014 at 06:02 PM by Randicus Draco Albus Randicus Draco Albus is offline
    Updated 08-15-2014 at 06:55 AM by Randicus Draco Albus
  14. Old Comment

    Good-bye Debian

    This showed up in the syndicated news forum this morning:
    https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/8/12/459

    He seems pretty upset too.
    Posted 08-14-2014 at 06:50 AM by GazL GazL is offline
  15. Old Comment

    Good-bye Debian

    Well, you're not the only one who has been considering leaving. I have been too, for either Slackware, LFS, or even another journey into the BSD universe... it's been years since I've touched a BSD.

    Now I'm one of those who doesn't care what init system Debian goes with as long as it worked... unfortunately systemd doesn't just work. I have enough messing around with my system to do without worrying if the init system's gonna mess things up.
    Posted 08-13-2014 at 08:04 PM by goumba goumba is online now
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    Windows PowerSh**

    Ouch. It's definitely better than it used to be, but PowerShell has a **long** ways to go before it's efficient enough to be usable, IMHO.
    Posted 08-13-2014 at 10:01 AM by rocket357 rocket357 is offline
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    Windows PowerSh**

    Recently a friend was telling me as his job, they recently tasked him with going through a ton of records, stored in plain text.

    I asked him what OS they were using. Of course, I already knew the answer. Windows.

    I told him how sorry I felt for him. I tried to introduce him at least to cygwin to help. He wouldn't hear it.

    Oh well, it's going to be a few long days or weeks for him.
    Posted 08-12-2014 at 11:14 PM by goumba goumba is online now
  18. Old Comment

    Et tu, Brute?

    Definitely not how it worked out in real life.
    Posted 08-12-2014 at 07:07 PM by rocket357 rocket357 is offline
  19. Old Comment

    Engineering Boredom

    My loving wife picked up a solder/hot air rework combo station for me for my birthday. Oddly, she picked out the same exact model I had on my amazon wishlist, and what's stranger than fiction is that she wasn't aware I'd put a solder/hot air rework station on my wish list.

    I took to twitter about it, and Amazon replied wishing me a happy birthday.

    What a weird place this world has become.

    As for the wrench incident, I would have dearly loved to catch that on film...
    Posted 08-12-2014 at 07:02 PM by rocket357 rocket357 is offline
    Updated 08-12-2014 at 07:04 PM by rocket357
  20. Old Comment

    Kernel 3.16.0-5-exton (3.16.0-rc6)

    Working?

    And everything is alright?
    Posted 08-12-2014 at 12:15 PM by exton exton is offline

  



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