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S*it for opensource

Posted 11-29-2009 at 11:44 AM by Web31337
Updated 11-29-2009 at 12:20 PM by Web31337 (fix mistake)

True story from IRC about how to make sh*t from opensource. It is just my way of thinking.
Opensource should be a god's light. You may judge me for saying or doing this in a rough way... but i stand my ground for opensource. and this is just my way of doing things. i will never use a help of dark lords of proprietary software.

Real nicks(and a project name/version too) are replaced with "some_other_developer" and "Project_Lead_Developer". I don't really want to publish them. maybe lead developer will change his mind. I only will say a project was a PHP CMS.

Sep 09 22:40:35 <Project_Lead_Developer> some_other_developer: re Microsoft: this company has been working with Microsoft for 10 years and they picked them to find PHP projects to promote. Microsoft are wanting to put a selected few PHP applications as highlight applications to help promote
Sep 09 22:41:10 <Project_Lead_Developer> means we have to package ProjectName up to work with their web app installer, but should be quite easy
Sep 09 22:41:28 <Project_Lead_Developer> and will also mean epic exposure and server death
Sep 09 22:53:09 <web31337> what's that buzz around m$ all about?
Sep 09 22:54:37 <Project_Lead_Developer> we got contacted by a Microsoft representive company, and soon hopefully ProjectName will appear frontpage of http://www.microsoft.com/web/gallery/ as a highlighted app =)
Sep 09 22:56:41 <Project_Lead_Developer> I'd like to get 2.*.* out first, so all hands of deck!
Sep 09 23:12:41 <web31337> o_0
Sep 09 23:12:59 * web31337 quits
Sep 09 23:13:45 * You have left channel #ProjectName ("My worst nightmares are about messing with m$.")

later.

Sep 10 13:28:30 <web31337> Project_Lead_Developer: hi! were you serious yesterday when talking about you want ProjectName be enlisted on m$'s website?
Sep 10 13:31:13 <Project_Lead_Developer> web31337, sure, what's wrong with that? Great chance to get ProjectName a lot of exposure
Sep 10 13:32:08 <Project_Lead_Developer> is Microsoft going to submit code and take over ProjectName? Not at all, all it is is to promote open source PHP projects for their 'Web App Gallery'
Sep 10 13:32:16 <web31337> hold on. i feel myself like im burning inside :D
Sep 10 13:32:21 <Project_Lead_Developer> why?
Sep 10 13:33:39 <Project_Lead_Developer> http://www.microsoft.com/web/gallery/ - quite a few are on there as well, Wordpress including
Sep 10 13:36:05 <web31337> my personal opinion is that opensource must never ever mess with stuff like m$. if it will, that opensource project will lose all it's respect. in my eyes pesonally. and i also guess in the eyes of other guys like me who stands for opensource as a god light came down to create a new world open to everyone, not the garden behind the black walls of proprietary software
Sep 10 13:38:25 <Project_Lead_Developer> what is m$? Microsoft I guess you mean, has no and will have no involvement in ProjectName - I really don't see what the problem is
Sep 10 13:40:45 <Project_Lead_Developer> is ProjectName becoming closed source? Hell no
Sep 10 13:40:52 <web31337> word "mess" is meant as getting in touch, establishing any type of contact with somebody/someone.
Sep 10 13:42:23 <Project_Lead_Developer> so as an open source project, we're not allowed to talk to a Microsoft *representative* regarding the possibility of getting huge amounts of exposure to support the project, because Microsoft is teh evils?
Sep 10 13:42:45 <Project_Lead_Developer> Microsoft actually support a lot of open source projects and are very helpful
Sep 10 13:45:22 <Project_Lead_Developer> basically, this just comes down to 'zomg microsuck is teh evils, die!' thinking of a classic Linux/Apple fanboy spreading FUD :P
Sep 10 13:45:54 <Project_Lead_Developer> sure I don't like Microsoft as a company, I think what they do is terrible regarding Windows and other services
Sep 10 13:45:55 <web31337> opensource imo must grow from people respect, not from other ways and of course not from that way you are about to choos
Sep 10 13:46:07 <web31337> s/choos/choose
Sep 10 13:46:35 <Project_Lead_Developer> how is having ProjectName on Web App Gallery any different to having ProjectName on php.opensourcecms.com?
Sep 10 13:47:14 <web31337> opensourcecms.com is about opensource.
Sep 10 13:47:35 <Project_Lead_Developer> sure, and so is web app gallery
Sep 10 13:48:00 <web31337> /web/gallery/
Sep 10 13:48:03 <web31337> /*
Sep 10 13:48:07 <web31337> /web/gallery/ != /*
Sep 10 13:48:19 <Project_Lead_Developer> hum?
Sep 10 13:56:08 <web31337> guys, i am sorry to tell you this but in this case ProjectName is messing with proprietary stuff like m$ im quitting. im quitting using and supporting ProjectName. sorry again. yeah it's just me i have my own opinion which i stand for, so... if you'll change your mind, Project_Lead_Developer let me know. im always around here on freenode. thx for useful advices which helped me :) good luck
Sep 10 13:56:26 <Project_Lead_Developer> how cute
Sep 10 13:56:51 * You have left channel #ProjectName ("...")

Don't. Really, don't. Follow your way. People will join you soon. When you will spend a lots of time, working on something, help will come to you. Good help. Help from world. Just do what you were up to, and be happy. Believe it. And you will get your own paradise from sharing your code with other people and the resulting software that you made with love will be attractive. It is an opensource paradise as i see it.
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