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Old 08-18-2012, 02:56 PM   #1
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Question "/arch/setup" not working?


hi,

i downloaded "archlinux-2012.08.04-dual.iso" and tried to install it to the hard drive. everywhere i have read on the web it says to type:

/arch/setup

at the root prompt. it says "directory not found". is this command still
workable or am i missing something? i know they made some changes to the install process but what am i missing?
 
Old 08-18-2012, 03:03 PM   #2
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using the .iso file, you need to burn a CD. (Make sure you use the "burn from image" option (or something equivalent)) Then boot from the CD.

After the system boots up, you will see the instructions right on the screen.
 
Old 08-18-2012, 03:14 PM   #3
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using the .iso file, you need to burn a CD. (Make sure you use the "burn from image" option (or something equivalent)) Then boot from the CD.

After the system boots up, you will see the instructions right on the screen.
i'm wayyy beyond that. there isn't any instructions.
 
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does the system boot from the CD?

After it finishes booting, what do you see?


(If you have already installed Arch to the hard drive, then /arch/setup is no longer used.)
 
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pretty sure they removed the installer. read the arch wiki for how to install now without it.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installation_Guide

or for more detail

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php...e#Installation

Last edited by ruario; 08-18-2012 at 03:45 PM. Reason: added links
 
Old 08-18-2012, 03:35 PM   #6
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does the system boot from the CD?

After it finishes booting, what do you see?


(If you have already installed Arch to the hard drive, then /arch/setup is no longer used.)
1: boot i386
2: boot x64
3: mem test
4: boot other OS
5: reboot

and so on. i highlight either i386 or x64 and it loads some lines. then it says:

root@archiso #

you are supposed to type "root@archiso #/arch/setup" but it says "directory not found".
there isn't a GUI anymore. disc hash checks fine.
 
Old 08-18-2012, 03:39 PM   #7
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the setup script was removed. the install is manual. read the wiki. there is a link in my previous post.

Last edited by ruario; 08-18-2012 at 04:43 PM. Reason: s/step/setup/
 
Old 08-18-2012, 03:45 PM   #8
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thanks.

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the step script was removed. the install is manual. read the wiki. there is a link in my previous post.
thank you.
 
Old 08-18-2012, 03:49 PM   #9
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no problem. hope it works out. installation of arch has always been a bit of a hassle but it'll be worth it in the end. arch is a very nice system once it is up and running.
 
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the setup script was removed.
off-topic, but WTF???!!!!----what problem was someone trying to solve?

This highlights a major truth about Arch---read the news on their website before doing an upgrade, making major changes, etc.
 
Old 08-19-2012, 03:27 AM   #11
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off-topic, but WTF???!!!!----what problem was someone trying to solve?
From the relevant Arch news entry on their website:

Quote:
AIF had to be dropped due to lack of maintenance and contributions. Of course we would appreciate it if people would start hacking on it to bring it up to par

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There is a thread on the Arch Linux forums on the install media change if you want more information:

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=145602
 
Old 08-20-2012, 04:20 AM   #13
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Since I haven't installed Arch for a while (and never since AIF was dropped), I thought I'd give the new install method a quick try in a VM using archlinux-2012.08.04-dual.iso. For the most part I just followed the Install Guide and only referred to the Beginners' guide and other parts of the Archwiki for a few small things I couldn't remember or wasn't sure about.

In summary, the installation was actually faster and easier than I recall. Perhaps this is just because I have a better understanding of Linux and Arch than I had previously. In any case, the instructions are quite clear and I found that most of the heavy lifting in getting the install up is actually actually still done for you via a handful of scripts like, pacstrap, genfstab, arch-chroot, mkinitcpio, syslinux-install_update, etc. I can't see any major downside to the new install process when comparing to an AIF-based install. All you really lose is an ncurses interface. Personally therefore, I don't see any need to bring back AIF, as the new way works just fine.

P.S. The bigger change I noticed was how much of rc.conf has been deprecated. It used to be a "one-stop shop" to configure almost everything. Now (like most other distros) configuration is done in various files scattered throughout /etc. IMHO this removes one of the nicest features of Arch and hence it was slightly disappointing. I can see how it was necessary as Arch gears up to being a systemd-based distro. It would have been nice however if they could have held off on that (at least for a while longer).

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Old 08-20-2012, 04:39 AM   #14
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I just set up a system with the new media and it was more involved which made it even more satisfying in the end.


http://ebalaskas.gr/wiki/archlinux/netinstall ---> This should help in getting the base system up and going.

Beyond that I would suggest reading the Arch Wiki installation guide.


No install is the same above the base since you are building your own custom distro from that point.
 
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Why not just use the Installation guide and/or Beginners' guide? This covers everything you covered and in many cases the official documentation is easier. You do stuff like "pacman -r /mnt --cachedir /mnt/var/cache/pacman/pkg/ -Sy base", when you could just use pacstrap. You manually chroot (and hence have to do several "mount --bind" commands), when you could just use arch-chroot. You did /etc/fstab entirely by hand, when you could have shortcut the process with genfstab (genfstab can even do an fstab with UUIDs automatically). It seems you duplicated the work of install guide but made it more more difficult.

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