I just saw on distrowatch that the 0.7 includes kde. Is that true I know with 0.6 I had to download it or somthing like that.

depends on what you mean I installed arch by downloading the minimal install cd I could and then fetching the rest through net...that way I got what I wanted. you probably will see by going to archlinux.org and clicking on the Release Package Lists / 0.6 Widget. that shows the version 0.6 packages...

AGilley007 - what's wrong with using a full, descriptive title? A single question mark tells us nothing about your question. Since this is LinuxQuestions.org, your title is redundant.

Better?

Also I am sorry I was in a hurry I had to go somewhere next time I will wait to I get some more time. Ok?

If you notice the size of the iso, you will realise that kde is not there. The iso gets you a base system and then you can add kde/gnome and other apps via pacman. If you are wanting to do multiple installs, you can burn the packages to cd and then copy or install from there. The pkgs are saved in /var/cache/pacman/pkg after you install. there is a pacman option to clear them if you are short on space.

Normally I just install the base, then add xorg, kde, openoffice and a few extras like k3b, kaffeine, and firefox. Install-as-you-need.

0.7 is really nice, give it a try.

Ok I will thanks.

What about people without internet connections?

Keeping Gentoo uptodate with usb storage and another computer with an internet connection is a hassle but doable, can you do the same with arch?

mage, surely - you'll just have to know what packages you need in order to perform the install (dependencies yes, them), then go to archlinux.org, search for the package(s) with the search box on the front page, download them to a memory stick / burn to cd / whatever, copy to your HD into the pacman's package directory (/var/cache/pacman/pkg according to colnago...I have no time to check this out right now) and perform an install normally with pacman. It first checks your HD for the package and will only try to download it if it can't find the version you want...also, I guess that the package lists can be updated the same way.

Thank you, I'll give it a go

I can't see me leaving Gentoo, but Arch looks like a good distro (and I've used a lot), and it's always nice to have more than on OS installed on your computer

I'm planning to get rid of my 2nd OS some time in the future..anyway, mage, I used to use Gentoo before and I have to say it's good I wouldn't have put it off but I didn't want to compile absolutely everything..Arch just fit into the picture more than well, so I picked it up, and have been happy ever since.

especially this Pacman-thingie, package manager, has made me happy - simple, fast, working...and allows me to do stuff in many ways, to install binaries or compile from source when I want to (ABS system).

Without a network connection, it is not so easy if you are setting up a bunch of stuff at the start, but once you are up to date, it is not too bad. The main page has a list of the newest packages (http://www.archlinux.org). If you click on the link, it will take you to the package page, which lists the deps too. You can grab the pkg.tar.gz files from a server (listed in files in /etc/pacman.d/...) and then either install directly (pacman -A pkg.tar.gz) or put the files in /var/cache/pacman/pkg/ and use the pacman sync mechanism. You need to get the .db file from the servers if you want to do the latter. There is usually a current and an extra repository.

I tried to do a FTP install and kept getting error messages on ever sever I tried.