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View Poll Results: Desktop Environment of the Year
Budgie 2 0.40%
Cinnamon 48 9.66%
Deepin Desktop Environment 1 0.20%
EDE 1 0.20%
Enlightenment 11 2.21%
Gnome Shell 47 9.46%
KDE 155 31.19%
LXQt 13 2.62%
MATE 62 12.47%
Moksha 0 0%
MoonLightDE 1 0.20%
Pantheon 4 0.80%
rox 3 0.60%
Trinity-DE 4 0.80%
UDE 0 0%
Unity 22 4.43%
Xfce 123 24.75%
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Old 02-03-2016, 11:09 AM   #31
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Out of interest what am I missing out on using XFCE rather than KDE?
I used to use KDE but since it seems to take me weeks to get my DE right (well, it's never just right) I tend to stick with XFC as it seems to do all I need or want. However, if I'm missing out on somthing KDE has I'll likely spend some time seeing whether it's worth the move.
KDE has a lot of "bells and whistles," that make it easier to use. OTOH, you can spend as much time as you want configuring KDE, but it isn't necessary. KDE-4.xx is still not as configurable as KDE-3.5.10, but almost. There was a time when you paid the price for all those bells and whistles, but at version 4.13.x, KDE finally got it right and it no longer uses more resources than Xfce. In one or two other threads, I've written about how I have over the years monitored the differences in resources used between Xfce and KDE, and, as I just said above, there is no longer a penalty for using KDE.
KDE 4.0 was a complete disaster that was forced upon the user by just about every distribution and many of us, myself included, went elsewhere. I used Xfce for several years. At KDE-4.14.3, I switched back to KDE from Xfce. However, over the Christmas Holidays I did run Xfce so I could run XSnow on the desktop.
Xfce still, after all these years, doesn't have a GUI menu editor. Some program windows pop up just about anywhere, etc., etc., etc. Mostly little things that can be taken care of in KDE with minimum fuss, without having to edit text configuration files. KDE has many applications that get the job done and does it very well. IMHO, Konsole (terminal), Gwenview (graphics viewer) and a couple of others are the best at what they do and I often run them from within Xfce.
OTOH, I do NOT like what I've seen of KDE-5 and it looks like a repeat of the KDE-4.0 debacle, i.e., we are going to be forced to use KDE-5 before it is really ready for "prime time." I won't. Not again. If it comes to that, it is back to Xfce.

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Old 02-03-2016, 01:56 PM   #32
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KDE has a lot of "bells and whistles," that make it easier to use. OTOH, you can spend as much time as you want configuring KDE, but it isn't necessary. KDE-4.xx is still not as configurable as KDE-3.5.10, but almost. There was a time when you paid the price for all those bells and whistles, but at version 4.13.x, KDE finally got it right and it no longer uses more resources than Xfce. In one or two other threads, I've written about how I have over the years monitored the differences in resources used between Xfce and KDE, and, as I just said above, there is no longer a penalty for using KDE.
KDE 4.0 was a complete disaster that was forced upon the user by just about every distribution and many of us, myself included, went elsewhere. I used Xfce for several years. At KDE-4.14.3, I switched back to KDE from Xfce. However, over the Christmas Holidays I did run Xfce so I could run XSnow on the desktop.
Xfce still, after all these years, doesn't have a GUI menu editor. Some program windows pop up just about anywhere, etc., etc., etc. Mostly little things that can be taken care of in KDE with minimum fuss, without having to edit text configuration files. KDE has many applications that get the job done and does it very well. IMHO, Konsole (terminal), Gwenview (graphics viewer) and a couple of others are the best at what they do and I often run them from within Xfce.
OTOH, I do NOT like what I've seen of KDE-5 and it looks like a repeat of the KDE-4.0 debacle, i.e., we are going to be forced to use KDE-5 before it is really ready for "prime time." I won't. Not again. If it comes to that, it is back to Xfce.
Sorry, quoting all as I'm on my phone.
There is, and has been for years, a GUI menu editor (that works) for XFCE -- I've a feeling there are at least two and one is alacarte.
The window positioning I'm not sure about only that when I open an application it opens in the window size and position I last left it in unless I'm using my desktop with "seperate X servers" on the NVIDI driver but that's an issue with all DEs.
I may give KDE another go when KDE 5 is a little better received.
 
Old 02-03-2016, 02:10 PM   #33
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Sorry, quoting all as I'm on my phone.
There is, and has been for years, a GUI menu editor (that works) for XFCE -- I've a feeling there are at least two and one is alacarte.....
Over the years I've tried at least one and it didn't worked.

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Old 02-03-2016, 02:19 PM   #34
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Over the years I've tried at least one and it didn't worked.
Then,perhaps, your distribution doesn't package them correctly? I've edited XFCE menus for at least 5 years with a GUI. Pretty sure I've done it one Debian(and based), Red Hat(and based) and Slackware.
Under Debian, a couple of times at least, they've packaged incompatible versions and I've lost menu-editing ability under one GUI or another but, generally, there has been a GUI way.
Sorry, I don't mean to be an XFCE fanboy but your experience and mine don't match at all. I have had issues and glitches with XFCE and I dare say KDE (or Gnome) may have been less so at the time.
 
Old 02-03-2016, 03:12 PM   #35
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At this point I have wonder why you bothered asking your original question.
However, Xfce still does not have a GUI menu editor included as part of the distribution and the "third party" editors I've tried have not worked. When a menu editor is included as part of Xfce, and is as easy to use as in KDE, then I will consider that "problem" solved.
 
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At this point I have wonder why you bothered asking your original question.
Because I am interested in any functionality I am missing out on. The suggestion about window placement make me consider playing more on my desktop with "separate X servers" in case KDE can offer more options.
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However, Xfce still does not have a GUI menu editor included as part of the distribution and the "third party" editors I've tried have not worked. When a menu editor is included as part of Xfce, and is as easy to use as in KDE, then I will consider that "problem" solved.
It doesn't need a "built-in", dedicated GUI editor as things like the afore-mentioned Alacarte have worked for years, reinventing the wheel isn't part of the way it works. As I mentioned, if that doesn't work on your setup then there may be a problem with your distribution.

I've had my share of problems with XFCE from icon schemes being shoddy to colour schemes not allowing both my task-bar and applications to have viewable menus. I'd like to hear actual benefits of another DE but I don't feel that "it comes with a tool that you would otherwise have to take seconds to apt-get"
is much of a reason for switching.

How is Amarok nowadays? I used to love that and it seems it may be "getting it's groove back"?
 
Old 02-04-2016, 07:12 AM   #37
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I had forgotten about KDEconnect... so now I will vote
 
Old 02-04-2016, 07:58 AM   #38
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Gnome Shell, i really like the overview mode
 
Old 02-04-2016, 10:49 AM   #39
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....How is Amarok nowadays? I used to love that and it seems it may be "getting it's groove back"?
I've never cared for Amarok, but if one likes the interface, Clementine, a fork of Amarok, gets the job done.
I usually use VLC for all things multimedia and occasionally SMPlayer or Audacious.
 
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Old 02-04-2016, 12:45 PM   #40
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Love, love, love pantheon. Super recommend it.
 
Old 02-04-2016, 02:21 PM   #41
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I've never cared for Amarok, but if one likes the interface, Clementine, a fork of Amarok, gets the job done.
I usually use VLC for all things multimedia and occasionally SMPlayer or Audacious.
Thanks, I'll take another look at Clementine. I used to like how, on "random, tracks could be added and removed from the Amarok playlist but it stopped working, for some reason.
 
Old 02-04-2016, 03:10 PM   #42
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GNOME 3 really didn't work well on my laptop until I added more RAM - going from 2 Gigs to 4 recently.

MATE is still my primary DE, but GNOME 3 is getting better, especially with the new apps.
 
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Let's give Unity some love...
 
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KDE4 but I suspect that my answer will be different next year as I am more likely to migrate to XFCE or Cinnamon than KDE5.
 
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Wow! I don't even know what most of these are any more! Kind of a jolt.

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