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View Poll Results: Browser of the Year
Chrome 67 12.67%
Chromium 45 8.51%
Conkeror 0 0%
Dillo 1 0.19%
dwb 1 0.19%
Epiphany 1 0.19%
Firefox 293 55.39%
Iceweasel 31 5.86%
Konqueror 1 0.19%
links/elinks 2 0.38%
Luakit 1 0.19%
lynx 3 0.57%
Midori 6 1.13%
NetRider 0 0%
Opera 14 2.65%
Otter Browser 4 0.76%
PaleMoon 18 3.40%
QupZilla 8 1.51%
rekonq 1 0.19%
SeaMonkey 26 4.91%
Uzbl 3 0.57%
w3m 2 0.38%
Iridium 1 0.19%
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Old 01-15-2016, 06:53 PM   #61
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This isn't a vote for a logo, it's a vote for a browser...
There's a[an ready long, long..] argument about whether Firefox and Iceweasel are "the same thing" but since they've different names and some of us prefer one more than the other...
Sorry, I see previous posts suggesting that that they could be included together much as Nightly could, really, be a separate choice also but there needs to be a distinction and it is how it is.
For all intents and purposes, they are. Iceweasel is built from the very same sources as Firefox of the same version. Only the name and icon are changed. IMO, it's "a rose by any other name", they're the same browser regardless of what you call it.
 
Old 01-15-2016, 06:55 PM   #62
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For all intents and purposes, they are. Iceweasel is built from the very same sources as Firefox of the same version. Only the name and icon are changed. IMO, it's "a rose by any other name", they're the same browser regardless of what you call it.
That discussion is a lengthy one. I am trying my best to avoid it.
 
Old 01-15-2016, 07:26 PM   #63
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There's free "modified software without being bound by the trademark requirements" and not-freeName:  firefox_small_icon.gif
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http://manybooks.net/titles/williams...04freed10.html
 
Old 01-16-2016, 06:30 AM   #64
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My basic issue with browsers are there are those who take the view: you know nothing about how to secure your system, so I will make all the decesions and basically lock me out of sites that I know are safe, even if they are not using the latest SSL.

Yes, I know there are people who have issues with understanding the risks - but security is many layers. I do not want everything "pre-scribed" for me. In my experience - activating mechanisms before people are ready for them weakens security - rather than strengthening it.

For years I was using FF17 - as the last ESR version that supported 40-bit encryption. Yes - very weak, but it was an interface (firmware) that was no longer being updated (no longer supported by manufacturer), and an isolated LAN. Not available, when justified, is also a security breach - just not one of confidentiality.

In short, FF gets good marks from me for being the last to prescribe security mechanisms upon me.
 
Old 01-21-2016, 12:42 AM   #65
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i started using palemoon. it's much faster than ff, and i don't miss any functionality.
it may have started off as a classic ui fan fork, but i think it's grown out of that.
 
Old 01-21-2016, 10:49 AM   #66
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I'm watching this thread rather than voting in it because I really need a new browser. I have the old Opera, which I like for the ease with which I can switch on or off things like Javascript and the plugings, and its general look and feel. But it's getting more difficult to use with some sites, and then I have to use Firefox -- and make a coffee while it loads the page...
 
Old 01-21-2016, 10:59 AM   #67
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I'm watching this thread rather than voting in it because I really need a new browser. I have the old Opera, which I like for the ease with which I can switch on or off things like Javascript and the plugings, and its general look and feel. But it's getting more difficult to use with some sites, and then I have to use Firefox -- and make a coffee while it loads the page...
Why don't you use the new Opera?
http://www.opera.com/computer
 
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because the new opera is just a wrapper around chrom/e/ium.

DavidMcCann: tried palemoon yet? i think it's worth it. snappier, all addons worked except https everywhere, which has a fork specially for palemoon. i don't miss any functionality.
 
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I'm watching this thread rather than voting in it because I really need a new browser. I have the old Opera,
Does opera still route traffic thru their servers? I heard they did/do that.
 
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because the new opera is just a wrapper around chrom/e/ium.
Is that true? Then what happened to opera? Is it purchase only?
 
Old 01-21-2016, 02:13 PM   #71
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Icecat is not on the list, used to be called gnuzilla I think. Icecat was about Libre/Free and patched. But I don't know much more than that.

http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gnuzilla/?C=M;O=D
http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/gnuzilla.git
 
Old 01-21-2016, 02:57 PM   #72
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Is that true? Then what happened to opera? Is it purchase only?
Opera is still Opera. It's just that the current version of Opera is no longer developed entirely independently. They build off Chromium, thus uses all the Chromium underpinnings with a different GUI on top of it and a few extra bells and whistles.
 
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Old 01-22-2016, 09:11 AM   #73
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Opera is still Opera............
No. Not really. The company has completely changed their direction/attitude, dropped many of their user related services and the browser is now a just another chromium clone.

One of the original founders left and started, Vivaldi @ https://vivaldi.com/

From Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivaldi_28web_browser%29

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Vivaldi is a freeware web browser developed by Vivaldi Technologies, a company founded by Opera Software co-founder and former CEO Jon Stephenson von Tetzchner and Tatsuki Tomita.[4][5] The browser is aimed at staunch technologists, heavy Internet users, and previous Opera web browser users disgruntled by Opera's transition from the Presto layout engine to the Blink layout engine, which removed many popular features in the process.[4][6] Vivaldi aims to revive the old, popular features of Opera 12 and introduce new, more innovative ones.[7] The browser is updated weekly, in the form of "Snapshots", and has gained popularity since the launch of its first technical preview.[8] On November 3, 2015, Vivaldi Technologies launched the first beta of the Vivaldi web browser and announced that the browser's technical previews have been downloaded more than 2 million times.[9][10]......
The rest at the link above.

While the project is trying to maintain the "feel" of the original Opera, it is, sadly, another chromium clone.

Opera 12.16 (Presto) under Linux is slowly losing usability over time, but the people over at freebsd tweaked it and there it runs as good as the first day it was release. Almost enough to make one consider switching to FreeBSD or PC-BSD.

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Old 01-22-2016, 09:20 AM   #74
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Does opera still route traffic thru their servers? I heard they did/do that.
Only when you enable Turbo.
 
Old 01-22-2016, 01:26 PM   #75
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One of the original founders left and started, Vivaldi
Didn't know that, is it closed source? I looked and didn't see the source.

Is it really just chromium? I used opera long ago and it had some good features.
 
  


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