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View Poll Results: Browser of the Year
Chrome 87 13.55%
Chromium 46 7.17%
Conkeror 2 0.31%
Dillo 1 0.16%
dwb 2 0.31%
Epiphany 3 0.47%
Firefox 371 57.79%
Konqueror 6 0.93%
links/elinks 5 0.78%
Luakit 1 0.16%
lynx 6 0.93%
Midori 4 0.62%
Opera 26 4.05%
QupZilla 5 0.78%
rekonq 3 0.47%
SeaMonkey 35 5.45%
SlimBoat 0 0%
Uzbl 1 0.16%
w3m 1 0.16%
Iceweasel 18 2.80%
NetRider 1 0.16%
PaleMoon 14 2.18%
Otter Browser 4 0.62%
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Old 12-26-2014, 11:16 AM   #46
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Yes, they are almost identical, so i think, that they should be grouped together, like in 2013.
Yet I am using Firefox (in its Nightly form) on both my x86 machines under Debian. I do take the point that Firefox may seem to miss out on votes, however, anyone who thinks about it can easily add the two in their head.
 
Old 12-28-2014, 03:59 PM   #47
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Firefox since 0.0.7
Have tried 7-8 others, still come back to Firefox.
will be trying Palemoon next.
 
Old 12-28-2014, 04:48 PM   #48
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Firefox since 0.0.7
Have tried 7-8 others, still come back to Firefox.
will be trying Palemoon next.
I quit coming back to Firefox when they forced Australis down our throats. Change for the sake of change is not a good thing, and that was the end of the line for me. PaleMoon is my current browser of choice, but sooner or later they will probably have to adopt Australis, and when they do I'll move on.
 
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I quit coming back to Firefox when they forced Australis down our throats. Change for the sake of change is not a good thing, and that was the end of the line for me. PaleMoon is my current browser of choice, but sooner or later they will probably have to adopt Australis, and when they do I'll move on.
Thanks. Getting tired of all the bloat. Will NoScript work ?
 
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Thanks. Getting tired of all the bloat. Will NoScript work ?
NoScript is listed as available for Pale Moon, but idk if it actually works or not - you should ask at the Pale Moon forums to be sure, but I'd bet it does. Some of the selling points of Pale Moon is reduced bloat, better performance, and old style interface (tabs under the menus and toolbars).

I'm a software developer, currently working on LAMP stack apps, and I use Pale Moon for development because the FireFox compatibility is so good. If it works for me in my dev environment with Pale Moon, then I know it will work in my production environment for users using FireFox. I'm using PHP 5.6.4 (most current release) with the current release of Apache, and my apps run very well in Pale Moon.

Actually, the only browser that has ever given my problems is Internet Explorer. Microsoft just keeps shooting themselves in the foot with their "updates" to MSIE, and I recommend to my users that they *not* use MSIE.
 
Old 12-28-2014, 06:40 PM   #51
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I quit coming back to Firefox when they forced Australis down our throats.
what the heck is Australis? Well, I've never really liked Firefox and just use it occasionally when I need the power of Firebug, or when I want to use so-called features I don't want to enable in Opera.

But still ... what is Australis??

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NoScript is listed as available for Pale Moon, but idk if it actually works or not - you should ask at the Pale Moon forums to be sure, but I'd bet it does. Some of the selling points of Pale Moon is reduced bloat, better performance, and old style interface (tabs under the menus and toolbars).
Yes, Yes it does. Using it as I type . Haven't found any of the 5 addons I use not to work, as they all came from the regular firefox addons page.

Downloaded Slimboat as well, but haven't messed with it yet.

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Old 12-29-2014, 10:41 AM   #53
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what the heck is Australis? Well, I've never really liked Firefox and just use it occasionally when I need the power of Firebug, or when I want to use so-called features I don't want to enable in Opera.

But still ... what is Australis??

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Australis is the latest and greatest user interface style that appeared in FireFox version 29. It was a controversial update and there was a lot of user pushback against it. Mozilla basically changed the user interface and told the users if they didn't like it, too bad. We (Mozilla) don't care what our users want, we care about making change for the sake of change. It works for Microsoft, right? I mean, if Microsoft can take a perfectly good working operation system and totally screw it by changing how things work, then we can do the same to FireFox. And if it pisses off our users, too bad.

I quit using Windows because of this mentality, and now I've quit using FireFox for the same reason.
 
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Australis is the latest and greatest user interface style that appeared in FireFox version 29.
thank you, I found that out meanwhile, too. And it shakes me to the bones - not so much because of this radical change, but because I simply didn't notice!

A regular customer of mine assigned me a PC in their office - Windows 7. I don't have administrative privileges, though, and software deployment is managed by a corporate IT department. Default browser, of course, is Internet Explorer, but they were so kind to install Firefox alongside. Now recently they updated Firefox from version 27 to 31 (at least I think it was 27 before), and the look & feel didn't change at all! Same on my parents' PC. Same here, Linux Mint 13.

Could it be that updating an existing, customized Firefox installation doesn't change the UI, and changes brought along by Australis only affect new installations from scratch?

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Mozilla basically changed the user interface and told the users if they didn't like it, too bad. We (Mozilla) don't care what our users want, we care about making change for the sake of change. It works for Microsoft, right? I mean, if Microsoft can take a perfectly good working operation system and totally screw it by changing how things work, then we can do the same to FireFox. And if it pisses off our users, too bad.
That's really awkward, but then some more companies seem to work the same way. Canonical, for example. A few years ago, Ubuntu was the prototype of a solid, serious and yet user-friendly Linux Distro. But then they started screwing it all up, finally introducing their own desktop Unity, which is a PITA (in my opinion). Not to mention those many little changes under the hood that make Ubuntu work exactly unlike many other distros.

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I quit using Windows because of this mentality
So did I in 2009 when Windows 7 appeared. I was totally comfortable with Windows 2000, and I could accept XP (though it already started to piss me off here and there). I skipped Vista due to the massively negative recognition in the public, and hoped that its successor would be better. Wishful thinking.

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and now I've quit using FireFox for the same reason.
I haven't, but I only use it occasionally anyway. In the first place, I'm still with Opera Classic.

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I prefer to browse LQ using Chromium, but I voted for Chrome because it got Netflix support this year.
 
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I think, to some extwnt at least, any settings pre-update do get kept in Firefox as the only real difference I see between my Nightly install and an Iceweasel install are the settings dialogue becoming a tab and the only thing is far thatKs anniyed me about the FF upgrade the silly new search engine box with dropdown disabled until text is entered. I appreciate though that some have different worlflows and I do find it silly that Mozilla are making these design decisions.
 
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I prefer to browse LQ using Chromium, but I voted for Chrome because it got Netflix support this year.
!!!!!

When did this happen????

I've been using a WinXP VirtualBox VM for netflix, I didn't know it now worked with Chrome!!!!
 
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!!!!!

When did this happen????

I've been using a WinXP VirtualBox VM for netflix, I didn't know it now worked with Chrome!!!!
It's fairly recent -- Netflix went to HTML5 based DRM, which is included in Chrome, and let Windows clients use it but Linux clients could change their user agent and do it also. Now it's been opened to Linux users and Netflix have a new customer in me.
You may still need to use the "Canary" beta of Chrome though and in my experience it won't work in Incognito mode.
 
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!!!!!

When did this happen????

I've been using a WinXP VirtualBox VM for netflix, I didn't know it now worked with Chrome!!!!
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ux-4175519422/

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I missed it. Wonderful news indeed! Silverlight is a kluge - dropping it is one of the smartest things Netflix ever did.

And, I just tried it in Chrome (Slackware 14.1 64 bit), and it works out of the box. Very niiiccceeee!

Does not seem to currently work with FireFox.....
 
  


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