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View Poll Results: Desktop Environment of the Year
KDE 208 33.12%
Gnome Shell 120 19.11%
Unity 29 4.62%
MATE 21 3.34%
Xfce 173 27.55%
rox 3 0.48%
LXDE 44 7.01%
Trinity-DE 7 1.11%
Razor-qt 7 1.11%
Cinnamon 16 2.55%
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Old 03-08-2012, 11:01 AM   #91
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Enlightenment isn't a DE, it's a window manger and is therefor in the Window manager of the Year category.

--jeremy
 
Old 03-08-2012, 11:01 AM   #92
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Enlightenment's a window manager:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...e-year-919891/
 
Old 03-09-2012, 01:41 AM   #93
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Jeremy / Brian,

That I did not know...Everyday is a school day...

Thanks for clearing my confusion...
 
Old 03-15-2012, 12:20 AM   #94
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xfce
 
Old 03-15-2012, 11:41 PM   #95
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KDE is best.
 
Old 03-16-2012, 05:51 AM   #96
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Wink

As a grizzled escapee from the CP/M wing of crufty retired engineers I've played with more than a few desktop/WM things over the years, and todays offerings are all relatively speaking marvelous to behold.

I've played with most of them at one time or another, and think of myself as being a happy itinerant wrt desktops and WMs.

@Satyaveer Arya, I'm delighted you like KDE - I loved KDE 3 for many a year, but have never managed to make the transition to KDE 4 - although I've tried, honest. Part of the problem is that my varied cpu hardware can't lift it properly, or there is just not enough RAM for KDE 4 and my sloppy browsing habits. So I can't use it every day, although live CDs are often tried, and test partitions occasionally inhabited by something new with KDE 4. I don't hate KDE 4, just don't use it.

In fact, I find to my surprise that of the list of DE choices at the top I only use XFCE and LXDE regularly.

Perhaps that's because I've migrated (mostly) to Window Managers like Fluxbox and E17? Love them both - Fluxbox for the utter manic configure-ability with only a text editor to do it, E17 for its gloss and polish in the details combined with stunning bling on old/tiny machines with tiny RAM. If you have not yet taken a look at the WM thread, it's here

@ breeze - yes, XFCE is grand, isn't it? Love the little bits of low-impact bling that make it more interesting visually without loading up the RAM to excess. Lots of GUI tools, too. Have had no problem getting any of my posse of n00bs up and running on Xubuntu, for example.

I cannot yet fathom the reasoning behind Unity and Gnome 3. But I'm happy to wait until a pattern emerges (or not) and in the meantime enjoy what we have!

Ain't Linux grand?
 
Old 03-17-2012, 11:08 PM   #97
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What about XFCE? Isn't it good too?

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Old 03-17-2012, 11:12 PM   #98
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Flymo,

What's you hardware configuration?
 
Old 03-19-2012, 07:40 PM   #99
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Yes, XFCE is indeed a grand desktop environment - I almost prefer it to Gnome 2 - but recent builds of Xubuntu LTS are now *just* a bit too heavy for some of our ancient hardware - and the E17 WM under Bodhi just works on the same machines. Any suggestions for XFCE on a lighter distro? Be interested in that.

The lowest spec machine we use regularly is a $10,000 (new UK price equivalent) 2001~2 Itronix GoBook ruggedised laptop that is ideal for outdoor use with a solid aluminium exterior, waterproof keyboard, sealed CD drive port & PCI card port with rubber plugs for all other orifices. We paid some $50 each around 2~3 years back, and bought a crate of them for the grand-kids to play with - after we'd wiped Win2K and installed Linux.
None of them have been broken yet! But the batteries are failing one by one, and it's hard to reload the sealed plastic battery cases successfully.

The CPUs are usually Pentium P3-700s or Celeron 850s, but this is from the days when Intel used a clock/2 divider, so in modern terms they clock x86 instructions at 350 or 425 MHz. eg: v e r y - v e r y - s l o w - i n d e e d

RAM is 128MB typically, and another stick will raise this to 256MB maximum - I cannot find an upgraded BIOS for them. Ahh well... Bodhi/E17 works just fine in either 128 or 256, although 128 will restrict the number of open browser tabs you can use. XFCE/Xubuntu 10.04 would -just- work in 256MB. Earlier releases were more compact.

They come with a touchscreen, some have a mobile 'phone/modem card, and a standard SIM will get these on the air. No WiFi, but we use a USB dongle.

XFCE was a favourite for a while, but Xubuntu seems to have grown heavier with age. Not as much as I have, though!

Bodhi was the first to get the touchscreen working properly, which was a gas! But I prefer a trackball and keyboard for a GUI, myself. (ymmv)

We have some other P3 desktop boxen that usually chunter away as servers - but we had one on loan to neighbours for a year as a web surfing machine. That had Lubuntu's LXDE on it, which was nice, just enough lighter than Xubuntu to run a bit better in 256MB, but Lubuntu is still not on the LTS program, so it tried to upgrade itself to Nasty Narwhal with tragic results. Installed LXDE/Lubuntu on a P3 with 512MB that belonged for another neighbour, worked well.

At the top end of our puny PCs is this AMD 240 box with nVidia 9800 graphics, 4GB RAM 1.5GB HDD and a 24" Acer screen - all for $500 off eBay AU a couple of years ago. Got to watch the pennies these days!
Even this fairly fat box benefits from E17 vs Gnome 2 or XFCE - it just responds a bit more snappily than under Ubuntu (Gnome 2) or Xubuntu (XFCE4) (both on different partitions) and uses less RAM. It also works far better for us than Unity. Still, there's always XFCE, and we like Xubuntu - but Bodhi's E17 is snappier and uses less RAM.

In the middle there is a slew of stuff, an old P4 box that now runs JWM/Rox in Puppy Linux, an AMD Sempron with everything from SuSE/Gnome2 to U/Xubuntu on its many partitions, a couple of Acer REVOs, one with Xubuntu, the other with Bodhi, a $190 eMachines (Acer brand) ER1401 with the new AMD K325 Atom-killer dual core in it running Bodhi really well with help from the nVidia graphics. A couple of Celeron Laptops - the AU$389 Acer 4315 that we bought new years ago, and a free-from-a-friend Compaq C300 Celeron 1.5 that is old enough to be well made and boast 740MB RAM.

Both run Bodhi, but the Compaq still has Win XP (in case the friend needs something from it) and Mint Fluxbox CE - hand-massaged to my liking a couple of years back. The 4315 has a slew of stuff on its (replacement) 500GB HDD - Ubuntu Netbook, LMDE Gnome 2 (which is fast, but a bit crashy) and occasional guest OSes.

I nearly forgot, our newest 'PC', bought new this year is a Genesi Efika MX ($130) with single-core ARM at 800MHz. Believe it or not, this drives our 32" TV in the living room with 720p HD and surfs the web with the best of them using the ARM version of Bodhi. I love teasing the occasional visitor with 'find the PC' after bringing up our gorgeous desktop and doing some of the slippery sliding between virtual screens.
This configuration was only just usable with the hand-massaged Ubuntu Maverick ARM with Gnome 2 published by Genesi - changing to E17 via Bodhi was an eye-opener.

So there can be real advantages in changing from a DE to a WM, in some situations.

The Desktop Environment or Window Manager or other software confabulation that sits on top of a *nix base can play a very large part in the weight of software felt by the system underneath. But the underlying OS itself also needs to be lean if a lean DE or WM is to succeed in its objectives.
Long may the search for the ultimate combination proceed!
 
Old 03-19-2012, 08:24 PM   #100
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Then in this case you need to install some lightweight desktop environment.
 
Old 03-20-2012, 01:24 AM   #101
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flymo View Post
As a grizzled escapee from the CP/M wing of crufty retired engineers I've played with more than a few desktop/WM things over the years, and todays offerings are all relatively speaking marvelous to behold.

I've played with most of them at one time or another, and think of myself as being a happy itinerant wrt desktops and WMs.

@Satyaveer Arya, I'm delighted you like KDE - I loved KDE 3 for many a year, but have never managed to make the transition to KDE 4 - although I've tried, honest. Part of the problem is that my varied cpu hardware can't lift it properly, or there is just not enough RAM for KDE 4 and my sloppy browsing habits. So I can't use it every day, although live CDs are often tried, and test partitions occasionally inhabited by something new with KDE 4. I don't hate KDE 4, just don't use it.

In fact, I find to my surprise that of the list of DE choices at the top I only use XFCE and LXDE regularly.

Perhaps that's because I've migrated (mostly) to Window Managers like Fluxbox and E17? Love them both - Fluxbox for the utter manic configure-ability with only a text editor to do it, E17 for its gloss and polish in the details combined with stunning bling on old/tiny machines with tiny RAM. If you have not yet taken a look at the WM thread, it's here

@ breeze - yes, XFCE is grand, isn't it? Love the little bits of low-impact bling that make it more interesting visually without loading up the RAM to excess. Lots of GUI tools, too. Have had no problem getting any of my posse of n00bs up and running on Xubuntu, for example.

I cannot yet fathom the reasoning behind Unity and Gnome 3. But I'm happy to wait until a pattern emerges (or not) and in the meantime enjoy what we have!

Ain't Linux grand?
Ho man! You are ancient! CP/M what??!! I don't think I've come across anyone in the last 5 years who even knew what that was, let alone had hands on .... Cool enough that you prompted me to post ....lol...

We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming..... ;-P
 
Old 03-20-2012, 11:04 PM   #102
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Heh! Thanks, gotfw!
But I'm just a kid....
One of my friends is 'a good bit older' and still doing his thing.
 
Old 08-08-2012, 03:37 AM   #103
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FluxBox is the best Window Manager, use it since Years without any issue.
 
Old 08-27-2012, 11:16 AM   #104
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Its a year now since Unity and Gnome3 came on the scene. Many of us have learned the new paradigm. The favorites bar on the left, either permanent, or disappearing (Unity can have it disappear -- takes a setting).

I use a workbench mainly for development, and need a second window open for documentation, a third for emails.

The Gnome2 was great for that mode, as one click switched me from one to the other. If I could have a one click change, I would live with the new way of doing things.

I used KDE for a while, but the Qt code on which it is based needs major pruning for speed. It is slow, consumes much memory, and is good for users who do not do programming.

As a programmer, I spend half my time using a sdk, and the other half with a virtual terminal. I need fast window switching without getting carpal tunnel problems with my wrist and left-mouse button. I would love to have a foot pedal or other method to replace the mouse buttons. Am I alone to think like that?
 
  


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