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The nominees are:

Firefox
Konqueror
Chrome
Chromium
Opera
SeaMonkey
Midori
w3m
Epiphany
links/elinks
lynx
Uzbl
Luakit
Dillo
rekonq
Conkeror

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Old 01-05-2012, 10:04 AM   #46
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Oh and let's not leave out lynx Hey is Emacs in the list? LOL!

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I don't see it hahah nice! but what about conkeror.org it's nice web browser on emacs I use from time to time but on firefox I uses a lot of add ons not to easy to switch though...

Best regards,
John
 
Old 01-07-2012, 06:29 AM   #47
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Now a days firefox is rapidly releasing its versions .... facing some compatibility issue ...

voting for chrome ...
 
Old 01-07-2012, 09:48 AM   #48
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All the active browsers available for linux:

Amaya
Arora
Chromium
Dillo
Dooble
Elinks
Epiphany
Google Chrome
Konqueror
Links
Lynx
Midori
Mozilla Firefox
NetSurf
Opera
SeaMonkey
w3m
 
Old 01-08-2012, 05:17 PM   #49
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First, no, Chrome is not open source. Sure, its based on Chromium, which is open source, and we can debate about how much closed code google has shoved into Chrome. But since the source is closed, we wont find out.
Ok, mostly open source. It's open source with some closed source components. A couple of closed-source plugins and a usage statistic collection feature (that's off by default IIRC) are all they added in. Matter of fact, I believe the crash reporter and user metrics system are open source.

How much of your software did you compile on your own machine? If you didn't download the source, then compile and install all of your software yourself, how do you know whether or not extra code was shoved in?

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Second, Googles 'rumoured ties to intelligence agencies' goes back a long, long time, pretty much to the beginnings of google.
Rumors are just rumors. I'd be interested in something concrete, but I don't really care about rumor.

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Thrid, you dont have to sell data to be a data miner. If you take a simple defintion of 'data mining' google is a data mining company without doubt.
They are definitely a company that does data mining. You seem to think they are doing nefarious things. What's the issue? What are they doing that's evil and where's the evidence?

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Forth, IMO a companies polices always matter.

As for how its important, think about how google is operating. They do some work on Chrome, then release it as Chromium and open source, using a licence that allows then to make a closed source versio). That allows google to not only get code for 'free' (LOL), and have a 'development' version they dont have to do anything with, they also get lots of people who dont understand the situation (or are prepared to 'misstate' the situation because 'google isnt evil') running aroung saying that 'chrome is open source' and 'google supports open source' and similar bulldust.

Its a win/win/win as far as google is concerned. Lower production and development costs, a ready made cheer bench, while keeping the code that matters to google closed.
So, you think all software should be strict GPLv3 or similar? How is it a bad thing if they release almost all of the source code, with the exceptions being replaceable plugins?

They do release very large amounts of code with projects like Chromium, Go, Android and Google Mock/Test. They employ developers like Guido van Rossum and pay them to spend time working on projects like Python. Other developers work on the Linux kernel. There's also their Summer of Code. I'm not "cheering" for them blindly. I'm saying that it's a good thing they can sink a large amount of resources into open source, especially paying students to work on open source projects instead of closed source internships. I'd be interested in knowing about companies that do a better job of supporting open source.

I'm not asking whether or not a business policy matters, I'm asking how is it relevant? Business acquisitions sometimes happen. Debating whether Google's policy is good or bad could take at least one long thread.

The economics of a company developing a program, then giving away both the compiled program and source code for free could be another large debate, but paid developers spending large amounts of time on open source projects costs a company a lot of money. Have you ever looked at what percentage of code in Chromium is done by Google developers and what percentage is done by non-paid developers?

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As far as I'm concerned, its lose/lose. Not only is Chrome giving google more power in the internet ecosystem (which they already have too much off) it also erodes the whole concept of 'open source', and is playing a silly licence game.
How does releasing the code for a good, multi-platform browser under licenses approved by the FSF and OSI erode any part of the concept of open source? What is this "silly" license game? Chrome might go against Stallman's idea of "free" software, but it does not go against open source.
 
Old 01-09-2012, 09:23 AM   #50
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Opera, always Opera.
 
Old 01-10-2012, 03:28 PM   #51
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I voted Firefox even though I am currently using SeaMonkey (same layout engine).

Browsers currently available on Linux not mentioned above.
(using WebKitGTK+)
Cream
Dwb
Jumanji
Surf
UbuMonkey
Vimprobable2
xxxterm

(using QtWebKit)
QupZilla

(variation of Chromium)
SRWare Iron

(variations of Firefox)
IceCat
Swiftfox

(other Gecko)
Conkeror

(other)
Chimera2

And, there are others that I am not sure will run on current distros.
 
Old 01-10-2012, 03:34 PM   #52
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I forgot to mention the Eve browser which runs WebKit-EFL. However it is too unstable to be anywhere near a contender for best browser.
 
Old 01-11-2012, 08:50 AM   #53
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How does releasing the code for a good, multi-platform browser under licenses approved by the FSF and OSI erode any part of the concept of open source?
Because you get people who either dont know whjat they are talking about saying 'chrome is open source'. Or people who know chrome is not open source saying the same thing. Both muddy the idea of open source. Chome is NOT released under a licence approved by the FSF or the OSI, chrome is closed source, the end.

I'm not going to even go into your other points, this was never meant to be a discussion/debate thread.
 
Old 01-12-2012, 09:02 AM   #54
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There should not be a Chrome entry as that runs only on Windows and Macs. Given this is a Linux/open source forum, there should only be Linux/open source clients - which would be Chromium.
 
Old 01-12-2012, 09:16 AM   #55
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There should not be a Chrome entry as that runs only on Windows and Macs.
Why is it that there are so many people who are underinformed about chrome? Chrome has a linux version......

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Given this is a Linux/open source forum, there should only be Linux/open source clients - which would be Chromium.
I'm hardly a chrome fan (obviously), but it should not be excluded just because its closed source. That would also exclude opera as well, which just happens to be my backup/secondary browser.
 
Old 01-12-2012, 09:38 AM   #56
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Why is it that there are so many people who are underinformed about chrome? Chrome has a linux version......
So there is. There certainly wasn't for a long time (which is why many people adopted Chromium) and Arch haven't made it available in their repositories (which is why I've never seen it since). But it's clearly there when I search AUR.


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I'm hardly a chrome fan (obviously),
Why is that obvious?

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but it should not be excluded just because its closed source. That would also exclude opera as well, which just happens to be my backup/secondary browser.
I didn't say exclude it because it's closed source (which would have been insane given I voted for Opera). I said exclude it because it's not available for Linux / open source platforms (which you've since corrected me on). They are different reasons entirely.

Last edited by LauMars; 01-12-2012 at 09:40 AM.
 
Old 01-13-2012, 01:38 AM   #57
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@ LauMars- Ahh, OK, that makes mopre sense then if you didnt know there was a linux version.

As for why it should be obvious that I'm not a chorme fan, have a look at some the earlier posts I've made on this thread.
 
Old 01-13-2012, 05:20 AM   #58
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Opera for me as it's the only browser that doesn't have some kind of shortcoming. It looks good too.
 
Old 01-17-2012, 07:26 AM   #59
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Chromium for me. I was unaware that Chrome - which I use on Windows - is available for Linux.
 
Old 01-17-2012, 11:56 AM   #60
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Firefox is still king in some options but I voted for Chrome (which I also use a lot) for all it advanced last year (although thinking better maybe that vote should have gone to Chromium).
Missing xxxterm from the poll.
Arora, back when I tried it, was similar but quite superior to Midori but the latter has been actively developed while it seems the former not.
I didn't check the latest Epiphany (probably to be 'official' in GNOME 3.4) but it seems that's another one improving very much.
 
  


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