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jeremy 01-12-2011 05:00 PM

Open Source CMS/Blogging platform
 
A new category last year.

--jeremy

Linux.tar.gz 01-13-2011 10:47 AM

Drupal. Comfortable.

teebones 01-13-2011 11:51 AM

typo3

jeremy 01-13-2011 11:58 AM

typo3 has been added.

--jeremy

trickykid 01-13-2011 01:16 PM

Textpattern?

jeremy 01-13-2011 02:10 PM

Textpattern has been added.

--jeremy

meetscott 01-16-2011 03:50 PM

I've used many of these and Drupal is without a doubt the best in my personal opinion. It's easy to upgrade and it allows quite a few different usage patterns. It's light weight and the time spent administering it and backing it up is minimal. I just use it and that's the way it should be.

code933k 01-16-2011 11:56 PM

Drupal! ...sucks.

meetscott 01-16-2011 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by code933k (Post 4226875)
Drupal! ...sucks.

That's cool, but why?

silvyus_06 01-17-2011 12:13 AM

i use wordpress.org.plain awesome for me. is blogger open source

code933k 01-17-2011 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meetscott (Post 4226877)
That's cool, but why?

Never thought of this obvious question. Simple answer, every time I see a cracked CMS it is Drupal. Cheers.

meetscott 01-17-2011 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by code933k (Post 4226905)
Never thought of this obvious question. Simple answer, every time I see a cracked CMS it is Drupal. Cheers.

Interesting. I have thousands of attacks per month, but I've never had a problem with it. I don't consider administering a CMS a trivial thing and it has to be secured and monitored just like any other server resource. But, if people are constantly getting cracked, I'd be inclined to blame the administrator because my years of experience with it have been very good.

sunnydrake 01-17-2011 05:51 AM

Joomla / Mambo and derivatives. biggest community of devs.

txyoji 01-17-2011 11:20 AM

Please add Concrete 5
 
Please add Concrete 5 as an option.

jeremy 01-17-2011 11:23 AM

concrete5 has been added.

--jeremy

goanna300 01-17-2011 04:46 PM

Mine isn't there
 
I know it's too complex to be included here with blogging CMSes, but last year I worked with Squiz CMS. (AKA MySource Matrix/Squiz CMS)
A pain to learn, not for the faint-hearted. More of a career than a blogging platform.
But I find when people talk about the best CMS they end up admitting deference to Squiz.
Learning Squiz is my ongoing 2011 project.

goanna300 01-17-2011 04:58 PM

A CMS to set up & walk away from? Joomla!
 
If I don't want to get endless help requests from web clients post CMS installation, I use Joomla!
Users and Administrators can get help online at a level they understand. Also the add-ons they want.

jeremy 01-17-2011 05:09 PM

MySource Matrix (Squiz) has been added.

--jeremy

code933k 01-17-2011 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meetscott (Post 4226910)
Interesting. I have thousands of attacks per month, but I've never had a problem with it.

Amen brother, that's the problem. You need to be an experienced system/site manager in order to get a secure ride with "simple" CMS like this. Common webmasters don't have this ability and I think CMS is to blame for it. Cheers.

salasi 01-18-2011 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meetscott (Post 4226910)
...I don't consider administering a CMS a trivial thing and it has to be secured and monitored just like any other server resource. But, if people are constantly getting cracked, I'd be inclined to blame the administrator because my years of experience with it (...Drupal...) have been very good.

This is an excellent point. I know this is a little off-topic (maybe deserves its own thread), but have you noticed how many of the 'Get up and running with <insert CMS name> in 24 Hours' style books that say anything worthwhile about security? At least in the bookshops in which I have looked, it is more-or-less zero. This (imnvho) is seriously reprehensible, and must be, in part, responsible for the issue.

FeyFre 01-18-2011 08:18 AM

phpBB (And I do no know why it is not in list)

jeremy 01-18-2011 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FeyFre (Post 4228727)
phpBB (And I do no know why it is not in list)

phpBB is not a CMS of Blogging platform, and is therefore not eligible for this category.

--jeremy

FeyFre 01-18-2011 08:58 AM

jeremy, so Joomla too. Joomla without 20 plugins is unusable(empty page with copyright string). So who restricts phpBB admins to install modification over phpbb to convert it into CMS/Blog platform? Nobody. So if no phpBB in list, Joomla should not be in list too and vice versa.

jeremy 01-18-2011 09:04 AM

From the respective official sites:

Quote:

Joomla is a free, open-source content management system (CMS) and application framework
Quote:

phpBB is a free flat-forum bulletin board software solution that can be used to stay in touch with a group of people or can power your entire website.
While it's possible we'll modify the category in future years to include forum software, phpBB is not a CMS or Blogging engine. Thanks for the feedback.

--jeremy

FeyFre 01-18-2011 10:40 AM

jeremy, no I do not mind category name and poll variants as it is now. And of course,I do not trying to advertise phpBB. But term CMS can be treated differently by some people.
Does forums have properties of CMS, doesn't them? Yes, they does. Forum users can easily create content to display on site(post message), decorated(by bbcodes) or not. Users can upload files which can be downloaded by other users(in form of attachments). Users can restrict access for content(via forum permissions). Does it requires any low-level knowledge(HTML/CSS/other language used by engine)? No, it doesn't.
So I can make conclusion: forums are a kind of CMS. Yes, it is not so tunable as Joomla.

But it is not of this topic discussion.

Regards.

teebones 01-18-2011 11:15 AM

no, a forum is a discussion system, hence the name. A CMS is more a document/article presentation system. In that sense that the documents/articles published, are not files (e.g. .pdf), but readable embedded in a style online. This requires a different method of dealing with publishing needs. A discussion system is interactive in content, while a cms is not. (you have authors and you have optional commentors, in a forum everyone is a commentor and author at the same time, thus bial way publishing, vs single way publishing with cms)

FeyFre 01-18-2011 11:56 AM

Quote:

in a forum everyone is a commentor and author at the same time
, every one who allowed to comment or post new topics. Permission system in modern forums can setup which users can post new topics(authors), which users can only comment(commentators) and which can only view other posts(topics, threads, articles). Also topic can be locked(i.e. forbidden for comment), i.e not interactive at all.
Quote:

but readable embedded in a style online
Post in forum doesn't embeded in style online? Anyway, anyone can rewrite(customise) HTML/CSS and forum structure templates to represent posts look like articles, and untutored user will treat it as CMS, not as forum. I know sample when third-party user(not forum developer) transformed forum engine into fully functional CMS(read, added more abilities to tune-up representation and behaviour of each topic/post)

Regards.

teebones 01-18-2011 12:45 PM

ok, let's go symantics (since you apply it)..
your case: just one group would suffice.. namely: software.. no subgroups.. just plain software.
You don't seem to make the nuances in function/audience in software programs.
Yes, you can (with some effort) turn a Bulletin Board into a cms kind of system, but a dedicated CMS is far more tailored to the needs of publishing. And ofcourse the other way, a CMS can (with some effort) turned into a Bulletin board kind of system, but a dedicated BB application is far more tailored to the needs of a bulletin board.

my3cents ;)

savotije 01-21-2011 08:59 PM

WordPress

gotfw 01-21-2011 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeremy (Post 4222247)
A new category last year.

--jeremy

Jeremy, since the poll includes blogging platforms, would you please add Apache Roller? Roller has made a lot of progress this year and is on the cusp of a new major release (RC3 status last I checked). It's not likely to win a popularity contest against all these php based offerings but Roller is a robust Java based offering that pays dividends for larger deployments (e.g. enterprise use). Sun used to use and support it (IBM and several other large corps as well), but since the Evil Ellison took over, corporate support has been pulled. Nevertheless, the lead dev, Dave, soldiers on and deserves our kudos.

meetscott 01-22-2011 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salasi (Post 4228559)
This is an excellent point. I know this is a little off-topic (maybe deserves its own thread), but have you noticed how many of the 'Get up and running with <insert CMS name> in 24 Hours' style books that say anything worthwhile about security? At least in the bookshops in which I have looked, it is more-or-less zero. This (imnvho) is seriously reprehensible, and must be, in part, responsible for the issue.

I haven't noticed what's out there in terms of books myself, but I've never read a book about CMS before. I've used several CMS systems and I've been administering sites for over 15 years. To me, competent system administration comes before doing all this, especially in this day and age.

One thing about easily getting started is it gives feedback and success to new people. They will get hacked and learn. There's something to be said for the learning process. We all have to go through it at some point. We can't all be experts right out of the gate.

If the books are too thick and complicated, they won't sell and the number of people learning will narrow. It's already a problem in general in our industry. People are not bothering to go into Information Technology because of the work involved in getting started. I guess that's good for our salaries, but bad for the industry because we don't have enough workers to keep up with the expected progress.

I don't think there are any shortcuts or quick answers to things like this. It will always be an ongoing issue. It is the reason why experience pays well when it comes to looking for work and marketing yourself. So I don't have a problem with books that help people get started and learn. Likewise, I don't have a problem with people complaining about those said books because they miss important things about security and such. Both have their place and both are needed.

So, I say to people like salasi... keep educating users/administrators! They need it and we will need them some day. And newbies should continue to try and fail. They need encouragement too. Even if a particular book or shortcut falls short, we are, in general always learning. I know I am!

gotfw 01-25-2011 06:33 PM

Jeremy- no comment on my Apache Roller suggestion??

jeremy 01-26-2011 10:24 AM

Roller has been added.

--jeremy

gotfw 01-26-2011 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeremy (Post 4238347)
Roller has been added.

--jeremy

Thank you. Now I can vote :)

wayward4now 02-02-2011 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meetscott (Post 4226539)
I've used many of these and Drupal is without a doubt the best in my personal opinion. It's easy to upgrade and it allows quite a few different usage patterns. It's light weight and the time spent administering it and backing it up is minimal. I just use it and that's the way it should be.

Thanks, couldn't have said it better! Drupal. It "Just Works!"<tm> Ric

Cityscape 02-06-2011 12:07 AM

Wordpress, WOOP! WOOP!

tacticalbread 02-07-2011 01:16 AM

WordPress. It works quite nicely for my small netlabel. :)

EricTRA 02-07-2011 01:23 AM

Hi,

Worked a lot with Joomla in the past, last year discovered WordPress and now voted for it because of its ease of use and the large amount of plugins/addons available for it.

Kind regards,

Eric


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