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rarsa 02-08-2009 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by cristoper (Post 3435785)
No, I'm pretty sure He codes in LISP.

He?
well. OK, figments of the imagination can have any gender, just that the imagined gender shows bias.

Why is the flying spaghetti monster a "he" should it be "it" ?

ryj_cube 02-08-2009 07:31 PM

IMHO, Java or nothing...

indienick 02-09-2009 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by cristoper
No, I'm pretty sure He codes in LISP.

Ostensibly, yes...

easuter 02-09-2009 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ryj_cube (Post 3436632)
IMHO, Java or nothing...

Dear god!!

theYinYeti 02-09-2009 08:39 AM

I wanted to vote for Javascript, and could not…
Javascript has seen a boost in performance with real-time engines this year, and a boost in usage with many more “web*2” sites (Ajax included).

Yves.

paulsm4 02-09-2009 03:49 PM

Hi, theYinYeti -

I hate Javascript with a passion. It makes VB6 or ASP.Net look like paragons of elegance. It's a hack that was created over beer and pizza late one Friday night over at Netscape, and it looks it. IMHO, Javascript is just about everything a language *shouldn't* be.

Yet...

It's totally unavoidable, and totally indispensible. It's a cornerstone of some of the most interesting/innovative software being written today.

I agree: Javascript should be one the list. And could well be a contender for the #1 spot!

theYinYeti 02-10-2009 02:54 AM

Javascript isn't as bad as people think it is. Unfortunately, far too few programmers actually learnt to use it the proper way, by forgetting the '90's JS, and learning structured unobtrusive JS instead.

See here for a quick overview (I know, links are broken, I'll have to do some house-keeping…):
http://yves.gablin.club.fr/gablin.ph...=pc_javascript

Yves.

theYinYeti 02-10-2009 02:55 AM

Please delete this post. Sorry: slow network -> error (why?) -> re-post -> double post…

millgates 02-10-2009 06:08 PM

My very first language was BASIC, but that's a long time ago... back in the 8-bit era
Now C is my favorite :)

gmbastos 02-10-2009 09:24 PM

I vote for shell script. It is the real language of the year every year.

Sure AWK and C/C++ are good contenders. Java is only for gadgets.

antivirus 02-10-2009 11:01 PM

C and Java

RudraB 02-11-2009 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by indienick (Post 3437107)
Ostensibly, yes...

i feel pity for Him

cristoper 02-11-2009 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by advanced (Post 3439171)
i feel pity for Him

Him? I suggest you learn a language with a suitable neuter personal pronoun so that you can do away with your blatant deity gender bias... :rolleyes:

opensuse4life 02-12-2009 12:13 AM

w00t? No fortran, Pascal, BASIC, or even Snobol? (lol, snobol... the language that was dead before it started, or, the cp/m of programming languages, or... well, you get it. )

C's the shitznit. 'nuff said

archtoad6 02-12-2009 11:44 AM

SNOBOL Rebuttal
 
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Originally Posted by opensuse4life (Post 3440567)
lol, snobol... the language that was dead before it started

If you mean it was originally intended as a research platform, rather than a practical number cruncher like FORTRAN, then OK -- you're almost right.

I trust you have read the SNOBOL Wikipedia article. Permit me one short quotaton from that article:
Quote:

SNOBOL was quite widely taught in larger US universities in the late 1960s and early 1970s and was widely used in the 1970s and 1980s as a text manipulation language in the humanities.
From The Retrocomputing Museum:
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snobol4
One of the most interesting, original, and influential languages of the 1960s, SNOBOL was designed around string-processing, pattern-matching, and textual transformation. Like many other one-idea languages (TRAC, APL) it was extremely powerful and elegant within its problem domain, but weak outside it (there also seems to be a law that such languages must have obscure syntax). It strongly influenced UNIX regular expression notation.
And finally from http://wiki.tcl.tk/10614:
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If it ain't regular expressions, it ain't no good. - LES

Les's ideas are no better than his grammar. The only advantage of regular expressions over Snobol pattern matching and Icon string scanning is that regular expressions are very terse. Perhaps because of their terseness, they quickly become unreadable as they become more complex. Pattern matching and string scanning are far more powerful, are quicker to write, and are far easier to debug. One writer said that if you have a problem and you solve it with a regular expression, you end up with two problems. If you need to do anything complex with strings, your best bet is Icon string scanning. Larry
This last one tells me why I get a horrible déjà vu of "There used to be a better way." when I can't write a regex to do what I want, or when I see a particularly nasty obscure regex (esp. in a Perl script).

Quick, what does: 's/\/\/\//\/\//' do? ;) Edit: added smiley


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