Ubuntu is not bad, just not suiting my personal needs.. It is natural that Knuth uses Ubuntu - he seems not to need much from an OS, as long as editors and compilers (including TeX) run OK - and most of the time there is no need to upgrade them.

I still think that Ubuntu will come out on top. Since I subscribe to LinuxFormat, I always have DVDs laying around the house. Noticed that I had 8.10 on my table. Maybe tonight I'll try it on my newer laptop. My old Acer Aspire 3100 and Slackware 12.2 are now really at peace with each other.

I have tried alot of distro's before i came across (K)Ubuntu. Now allthough this is my choice I would have to say all NON-windows desktop distro's should be voted on! I hate MS with a passion!

i am now using Fedora 10.0 gnome, and SUSE 11.0 KDE,
KDE is very nice to see, it's graphical effects are very nice. when it comes to gnome it has lack of good looking.

Voting for Debian. Voted Slack last year but I replaced my Slack server with OpenBSD. Though its been 8 or so years since I have used Redhat or Mandrake/Mandriva and I am sure they have come a long way, I will still never vote for them. Back then those 2 Distributions almost made a joke of Linux. I would never vote for Ubuntu either. I hate the fact that they aim to make Linux easy for all people. I pray that Linux remains only for us elite. I hate the thought of someone using Linux who does not appreciate its history or the blood and sweat that went into making and learning Linux. Ubuntu is like sleeping with a hooker, sure shes easy and will do what you tell her but she won't ever love you or stay with you for the long haul.

Edit: Excuse me for having a "If it was hard to write it should be hard to understand" view point.

Fedora.

I'm interested to know in what way did they achieve this?Thank goodness you're not at the helm!Looks like the great one is ignoring your prayers.As you do by merely calling it Linux instead of GNU/Linux!LOL, are you speaking from experience? If not then you are clearly a troll.

Your entitled to you're opinions as I am to mine. I do not appreciate the abrasiveness though. But since you did ask me a question.

There was a period of time about 10-12 months around the release of Redhat 6 where the operating system was riddled with an abundance of security and stability issues (moreso than any other distribution at the time). Which was not so bad in itself but this is when they started making their big market push they started flooding computers and shelves with their operating system. And though its no big deal (especially after the Ubuntu fiasco with that college student) the systems got returned so much that it made the news. There were several websites devoted to being anti-redhat. Some are even still around and are not hard to find. I will not bother linking any due to some of the inappropriate URL's.

Well, I'm sorry, but I'm a mere working class peasant who's obviously got ideas above his station daring to use GNU/Linux.
That's it. Pour on the melodrama! You missed out "toil and tears".
Never pay for it myself. Us peasants can't afford it.

I am not familiar with the particular incident to which you refer (links would have been nice, however I accept your reason for not linking) but all distros go through some kind of crisis. Some of them minor, some of them major. That's still no reason to use that to judge them as a whole.

I fail to see how keeping GNU/Linux in the hands of a few can be of any benefit. Would you go about encouraging users to buy micro$hite just to acheive your goal of keeping GNU/Linux in the hands of only the elite. I seriously doubt that's the intentions of Richard Stallman, to keep GNU/Linux merely for the elite. Not everyone will be interested in the history of GNU or of Linux, that doesn't make them undeserving.

I deliberately avoided using abrasive responses to your post (with the exception of inferring you may be a troll), however to post such comments as you did without any kind of explaination for your stance leaves you open to such accusations.

Hello gentlemen, remember it's all about "Desktop Distribution of the Year" :-)

Oh no, here come the swiss to calm things down

LOL

That reminds me of the difference between Heaven and Hell:

In Heaven:

The bureaucrats are German

The police are British

The lovers are Italian

and the chefs are French.

In Hell:

The bureaucrats are Italian

The police are French

The lovers are German

and the chefs are British

#! combines lower resource needs and the stability of Ubuntu. Has a good set of pre-installed programs too.

Ah! Someone other than me who's been around long enough to remember that fiasco. Not to mention how badly pushed out patches hosed up corporate cu's with bog dollar support contracts. But hey, better not say anything bad about RH hereabouts or the mods will come down on you:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ml#post3425353

P.S.; And I agree, to some extent, with your feelings about bringing Linux to the masses. Back in the day you were expected to put something into it. The entitlement attitude of more modern times, however, seems to have given rise to a different class of users who expect not to have to invest in learning. This has resulted in the "dumbing down" of DE's by commercial players who 1) do have a vested interest in bringing Linux to the corporate desktop, and 2) the financial resources to ensure they have all the right people pushing their agenda. In my opinion, this has been a double edged sword - we get tools like Evolution and Nautilis, w/tons of cool features, but a piss poor implementation because of design goals that prioritize smoothing transition for MS users. Don't even get me started on HIG - "Havoc's ID10T Guidelines".

P.P.S.; Yeah, I've been using computers long enough to remember when the vt52 terminals that replaced the punch cards readers were THE schnizzle!!