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View Poll Results: Desktop Distribution of the Year
Fedora 170 8.75%
Ubuntu 599 30.83%
openSuse 129 6.64%
SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 16 0.82%
Mandriva 85 4.37%
Slackware 227 11.68%
Gentoo 93 4.79%
MEPIS 40 2.06%
Freespire 8 0.41%
Arch 127 6.54%
PClinuxOS 128 6.59%
Zenwalk 48 2.47%
Debian 208 10.71%
VectorLinux 14 0.72%
KNOPPIX 6 0.31%
Linux Mint 43 2.21%
Ark 2 0.10%
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:23 AM   #61
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Ubuntu's continued explosive rate of technical and community success is staggering. Still, I'm very proud of the NetBSD and FreeBSD folks for having new major release in 2007 (NetBSD 4.0) and 2008 (FreeBSD 7.0 - coming very soon). I do need to give the new Fedora a shot though, I haven't used it since FC2, so it'll be interesting to see what has happened since the "core" got dropped.
 
Old 01-08-2008, 04:29 PM   #62
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Now why would not think that Ubuntu is not going to take this,

Look at what they have done for the Linux community as far as desktop goes.

For once we have a major Computer company Dell selling PC's with pre-installed Linux.

WOW I don't think there is a other choice. I mean every distro is great but what have others done?

openSuse- signed with Microsoft
Freespire - signed with Microsoft
Fedora - nothing.

If we want to take Linux to the next step then we need to support the Linux-

PS my second choice would be Mint as for people crossing over to Linux this is the easy distro---and I know some of you experts are going to say its to easy but who cares, use what you like but invite more people to use Linux and not M$.
Thanks
 
Old 01-08-2008, 11:51 PM   #63
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Most noobs/rookies start with Ubuntu, because of all the hype.

The few that actually learn the linux nuts and bolts, eventually (years?) realize Ubuntu is just one of several distros based off of Debian, and decide to try Debian.

They are amazed how much better Debian is, for the philosophy, the advanced users, the reliability, the larger software base, the more mature how-to's, the many support web sites by and for veterans, etc. They are glad they discovered the big league, and don't look back.

We run Debian stable (currently etch) on our production desktops. It is 100% reliable for production use. Ubuntu never will be. Our techies go with Debian Lenny and/or sid.

Infact, Debian is so reliable, we run Debian stable on our production servers too.

If you haven't tried it yet, give it a look. For you people used to the rpm distros, and don't have .deb experience, read the tutorials on debian.org before installing, so you get the right start.
 
Old 01-09-2008, 01:07 AM   #64
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The truth about Mint

Someone asked what the diff was between Mint and Ubuntu.

Before Mint, when I wanted to play a movie in a distro the first task was to search all over creation for an explanation of how to do that. Maybe the first few threads I found would have a wrong or incomplete answer, and then finally, maybe days after installation, I would find the answer. This was true in Ubuntu and in many other distros.

With Mint, your movies play immediately after you install it. I think that was the first step in the "Mint Rebellion," I would call it. Many users just got tired of going thru all kinds of tap dances just to play movies that (1) we bought, (2) that played correctly in Windows without any problems.

So, unlike Ubuntu, when you installed Mint, your movies just played.

But Mint didn't stop there; it parlayed its popularity by creating other user-friendly features that are not included in Ubuntu. It has been rather pushy in fast development and open in experimentation. For example, it recently released an experimental version of Mint based on debian, NOT on Ubuntu. Is that a feature of Ubuntu? No.

On another subject, I see there is someone named Taylor Venable in this thread. My name is Gene Venable. Hmmm.
 
Old 01-09-2008, 02:13 AM   #65
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Most noobs/rookies start with Ubuntu, because of all the hype.

The few that actually learn the linux nuts and bolts, eventually (years?) realize Ubuntu is just one of several distros based off of Debian, and decide to try Debian.
This is exactly what I did. I then tried Zenwalk, and then Slackware. I never thought I would ever switch from Debian-based distros, but I found that I found I really like the Slack way of doing things. Zenwalk and Slackware are now what I mostly use.
Lots of Ubuntu users try other distros. There is even a section of the ubuntu forums devoted to other distros. So the success of ubuntu is indirectly beneficial for other distros also.
 
Old 01-09-2008, 06:56 AM   #66
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This is exactly what I did. I then tried Zenwalk, and then Slackware. I never thought I would ever switch from Debian-based distros, but I found that I found I really like the Slack way of doing things. Zenwalk and Slackware are now what I mostly use.
Lots of Ubuntu users try other distros. There is even a section of the ubuntu forums devoted to other distros. So the success of ubuntu is indirectly beneficial for other distros also.
If I sold PC H/W i would pre-install Zenwalk and give live/install CDs/DVDs of it along.
Mac's would perish soon

lol
I voted for Slackware 12.0 - power to those who seek it.
 
Old 01-10-2008, 03:38 AM   #67
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With Mint, your movies play immediately after you install it.
So it means that Mint and Zenwalk have something in common

Cheers

JP
 
Old 01-10-2008, 04:18 AM   #68
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Pardus. Excellent entry-level and worry-free desktop distro.
 
Old 01-10-2008, 09:25 AM   #69
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Definitely Zenwalk
 
Old 01-10-2008, 03:52 PM   #70
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release in 2007 (NetBSD 4.0) and 2008 (FreeBSD 7.0 - coming very soon). I do need to give the new Fedora a shot though, I haven't used it since FC2, so it'll be interesting to see what has happened since the "core" got dropped.
The drop of Core was nothing really special however I do like Fedora 7. Although because it was a rushed release it is flaky at times. I have heard that Fedora 8 is very stable.
 
Old 01-10-2008, 04:00 PM   #71
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Talking

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Most noobs/rookies start with Ubuntu, because of all the hype.
Totally. My Brother knows this guy who uses Ubuntu and calls everyone noobs. Then when my Brother talks about even the most primitive Unix command and the other guy was like "duh whaa!".

It was hilarious when he found a hard drive that had FreeBSD on it. "It was running a strange modified version of Linux with a devil!". Well it is true that the only real difference between *BSD and GNU/Linux is the kernel, as lets say comparing Fedora to FreeBSD: They both come with the same desktops, utilities, and apps. But still, the guy is noob, and should not call others that if he does not know what he is talking about.
 
Old 01-10-2008, 04:36 PM   #72
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Fedora - nothing.
Pardon me, but this does not seem correct to me. Fedora supports Red Hat which fights Microsoft and SCO quite vocally. Although they are not connected officially the Fedora project and Red Hat have a alliance. RHEL is in basics old Fedora code made into a nice sever distribution (Then that code is made into CentOS another great sever system). Also Fedora supports Free Software quite a bit, by keeping an extensive repository of Free Software Applications, from Editors, to Browser, to Office Suites, to Games. I do not support Linux, I support Free Software. I just happen to support Linux because it is a great Free Software OS.

Which leads me to another thing, the distributions I love are community based like Debian and Fedora. Supporting the community based distributions is the ultimate support for Free Software. Community development is democracy. Corporate development is a dictatorship. No matter how pure or open source a corporate distribution is if it gets big enough its power will corrupt it. This is what I believe happened to Suse. It got bought by Novel and thus with this power it corrupted. I believe Canonical is under going the same change. It got powerful and thus it is corrupting. In a community based development environment it is harder for a person to get greedy and corrupt the whole project, as it is a democracy not a dictatorship.

Anyways any one of Shuttlworth's wealth must be mean little *****. You do not get rich by being nice and fair. You get rich though cruelty and oppressing others, that is Classism. Fedora leader Max Spevack on the other hand is just your typical hacker, working at Red Hat by day, Fedora by night. (Must go though a lot of caffeine ) Please respond with Logic please. VIVA LA LINUX! VIVA LA GNU! VIVA LA FREE SOFTWARE!

Sorry about the essay.
 
Old 01-10-2008, 04:42 PM   #73
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i use ubuntu ,but i vote fedora ,
fedora alwayes lead the new technology
This is a very nice post. It shows an idea of people that are not narrow minded about distributions. I myself use Fedora and will soon use Yoper on my Laptop. However I support all other distributions as long as they are Free and Open Source. I like Debian, CentOS, Mandriva, Slackware, etc. I just dislike Ubuntu, Suse, and Linspire for particular reasons.
 
Old 01-10-2008, 04:57 PM   #74
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You have a very narrowed view of things, for example: "Ubuntu is to User Friendly which I believe is the Anti-Christ". By that thought, why does an OS has to be hard to use to be good?
I dislike things that are User Friendly because they generally lead to the hiding of the technical information I need to actually use my computer (In my experience). I do not mind making things easy, I mind making things hide information and make it so many things do not work, just for the sake of attracting a less technical crowd, like how Windows does things. I find that when people say User Friendly this is actually what they mean, the hiding of information. Do not peg me as an extremist just because I would rather have something that works, then something that is easy.

As to my criticisms of Shuttleworth. My disagreements with him in of them selves would not make me deem Ubuntu to not to be a good distribution. Like how I have my disagreements with Jimmy Wales and yet I am a proud Wikipedian. It is that on top of the other thing I noted that have caused my dislike of Ubuntu.

As to my analogy to the "stealing of free source code". That is me. I dislike anything that takes Free Software code and then uses it for corporate purposes. That is why I use the GPL on my code. Though that licence does not provide complete protection against that though. Again do not peg me as an extremist for disliking one distribution. I like most of them. Nor do I believe that Ubuntu users are the soldiers of the devil, not that you said that I believe that.

Last edited by Good Riddance 98; 01-10-2008 at 04:59 PM.
 
Old 01-10-2008, 05:45 PM   #75
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why not slackware. I run Gnome kde fluxbox etc etc these are all gui. every one I instal for friends and work seem to have know problem with the GUI Desktops. Then my programmers love it because my admin boy can install with out fighting that dependency problem . When we have multi systems Slack and non-slack. Different kernels. Self dependency is a big thing. every linux system has this ability but slack is under your control. as like any linux system can be if you want it. It's all linux or is it?
 
  


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