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Poll: Database of the Year
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Database of the Year

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The nominees are:

MySQL
PostgreSQL
Firebird
sqlite
Oracle
Sybase
DB2
Berkley DB
InnoDB
EnterpriseDB

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Old 01-16-2008, 07:57 AM   #46
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I like MySQL
 
Old 01-16-2008, 09:05 AM   #47
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Sun Microsystems Announces Agreement to Acquire MySQL, Developer of the World’s Most Popular Open Source Database. More information here:

http://www.sun.com/aboutsun/pr/2008-...20080116.1.xml
 
Old 01-16-2008, 09:28 AM   #48
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jainforall, read my last post in this thread.

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Old 01-17-2008, 06:55 PM   #49
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http://www.developer.com/design/arti...0925_3721761_1

YES! :}



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Old 01-20-2008, 11:01 PM   #50
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And a very nice write-up on the good old Postgres (PostgreSQL) vs MySQL debate ...

http://people.planetpostgresql.org/g...Sabino-Mullane


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Old 01-21-2008, 12:29 PM   #51
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I voted for MySQL, never got wrapped up in debates, but if MySQL doesn't suit the job I have no problem using the tool that does.
 
Old 01-22-2008, 08:44 AM   #52
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Good answer!!!
 
Old 01-27-2008, 12:11 AM   #53
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i'm a bit late with this , but :
What are the definitions of "The Database of the Year" - parameters, features do gets compared...
I probably missing the description of this somewhere. Please point out.
Thank you.
 
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I guess which ever you prefer for which ever reason ;}

PostgreSQL all the way.


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Old 01-27-2008, 12:29 PM   #55
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I guess which ever you prefer for which ever reason ;}

PostgreSQL all the way.

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well, if so then highly modern approach of calculator ( say in my cell phone ) and good old notepad on my desk.

P.S. I personally think that these polls are very uninformative and sorta useless.
"useless", because people express their likes wo any base. LQ can run, with the same success and usefulness to community the "Best color of Year".
 
Old 01-27-2008, 12:45 PM   #56
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Quote:
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well, if so then highly modern approach of calculator ( say in my cell phone ) and good old notepad on my desk.
You're mistaking databases with spread-sheets.

Quote:
Originally Posted by DBabo View Post
P.S. I personally think that these polls are very uninformative and sorta useless.
"useless", because people express their likes wo any base. LQ can run, with the same success and usefulness to community the "Best color of Year".
Except that that wouldn't have ANYTHING to do with Linux or
OpenSource, which would indeed be quite weird on primarily
technically focused forum.

Realistically ... what would YOU like to see compared?
Speed? Standard Compliance? Data Integrity? Extensibility?
Number of supported embeddable languages for functions?
And if we introduced a list of let's say 15 distinct qualities
and added some weighting to those... how many people would
take the time? And: should people who only ever used one
RDBMS be allowed to vote, since they have nothing to compare
it against, really? I think the poll makes sense in the
terms of expressing the preferences of the people coming
here, whatever they base their decisions on. If you expect
a "good reason" for the poll - what's your take on the
elections in the states? ;D (Please DON'T answer this one
here, take it to General if you feel the urge).

And as for the uselessness: people get an option to state WHY
they prefer which system. Alas, some of our members (most notably
the ones who signed up for the sole purpose of voting for firebird)
make that a "I vote for firebird" w/o any explanation ...



Cheers,
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Old 01-27-2008, 06:45 PM   #57
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You're mistaking databases with spread-sheets.
not exactly http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/d/database.html :
"A collection of information organized in such a way that a computer program can quickly select desired pieces of data. You can think of a database as an electronic filing system."
Replace the term "computer system" with "human being". Say that i'm very meticulous about making frequent updates to the TOC and index, and I'm making a frequent copies on the copy machine, AND send those copies to other offices across a country. And you will see that I'm one damn sophisticated modern DBMS


Quote:
...
Except that that wouldn't have ANYTHING to do with Linux or
OpenSource, which would indeed be quite weird on primarily
technically focused forum.
quite on contrary - open source - please be my guest to take said notepad and make it better - organize better, make a nicer TOC. I have no problem with that, if you promise to share your procedures and end result product. Cant have more open approach than this, can you?
And if you would like to implement it on some specific computer OS - I certainly won't object either.

Jokes aside - but the example of the calculator ( or doing math on paper with pen and pencil, to make it more open source ) doesn't brake boundaries of this poll.

And that's exactly what made me ask the original question.

You made a very good entry and now we have details to the poll:
It ( the DB solution ) should satisfy following conditions:
1. Has to be available for Linux
2. Be Open Source
let's continue...

Quote:
Realistically ... what would YOU like to see compared?
Speed? Standard Compliance? Data Integrity? Extensibility?
Number of supported embeddable languages for functions?
And if we introduced a list of let's say 15 distinct qualities and added some weighting to those... how many people would take the time? And: should people who only ever used one RDBMS be allowed to vote, since they have nothing to compare it against, really? I think the poll makes sense in the
terms of expressing the preferences of the people coming
here, whatever they base their decisions on. If you expect
a "good reason" for the poll - what's your take on the
elections in the states? ;D (Please DON'T answer this one
here, take it to General if you feel the urge).
Very-very valid comments indeed.

I would like to see compared quite a few options and features. BUT i liked your idea of making members select those features from the list and then compare DB solutions against that list.
I think such poll will have more respect inside and outside our community and might help the decision makers.

Let's examine following 2 statements and see which one would gain our attention:
1. LQ community selected product AZXSDC of the Year, because we had 10.000 members voted for it. We didn't select any parameters and no features were compared.

2. LQ community selected product AZXSDC of the Year, based on the vote of 10.000 members. Each product was weighted by the following, initially selected by members, categories:
a. user's experience
aa. easy to install ;
ab. easy to learn to work with
ac. etc
b. DB admin perspective
ba. amount of sleepless nights required to get the thing to work proplery
bb. security
bc. performance
bd. etc
c. business perspective
ca. TCO
cb. time to implement the project
cc. etc
d. <smth else >


I personally look in for answers to my technical questions. Or advise basedon the experience.
Posts that express just an emotion ( "oh, i like this and that because it's has totally like cool blah that totally rocks" ) is just that they "totally" not useful.

Please don't get me wrong, i'm not against the polls per se. I would rather see the value of and respect to/of LQ to continue to rise vs. becoming "yet another forum to filter emotions".

Last edited by DBabo; 01-27-2008 at 06:48 PM.
 
Old 01-28-2008, 11:54 PM   #58
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PostgreSQL or sqlite, depending what I am doing. I dislike MySQL and I think that poor excuse for a database is just lucky to be as popular as it is...
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DBabo View Post


:) quite on contrary - open source - please be my guest to take said notepad and make it better - organize better, make a nicer TOC. I have no problem with that, if you promise to share your procedures and end result product. Cant have more open approach than this, can you?
And if you would like to implement it on some specific computer OS - I certainly won't object either.
Actually my response was on your "poll on favourite colour" ...
and that still has nothing to do with OpenSource.

Quote:
Originally Posted by DBabo View Post
You made a very good entry and now we have details to the poll:
It ( the DB solution ) should satisfy following conditions:
1. Has to be available for Linux
2. Be Open Source
let's continue...



Very-very valid comments indeed.

I would like to see compared quite a few options and features. BUT i liked your idea of making members select those features from the list and then compare DB solutions against that list.
I think such poll will have more respect inside and outside our community and might help the decision makers.

Let's examine following 2 statements and see which one would gain our attention:
1. LQ community selected product AZXSDC of the Year, because we had 10.000 members voted for it. We didn't select any parameters and no features were compared.

2. LQ community selected product AZXSDC of the Year, based on the vote of 10.000 members. Each product was weighted by the following, initially selected by members, categories:
a. user's experience
aa. easy to install ;
ab. easy to learn to work with
ac. etc
b. DB admin perspective
ba. amount of sleepless nights required to get the thing to work proplery
bb. security
bc. performance
bd. etc
c. business perspective
ca. TCO
cb. time to implement the project
cc. etc
d. <smth else >


I personally look in for answers to my technical questions. Or advise basedon the experience.
Posts that express just an emotion ( "oh, i like this and that because it's has totally like cool blah that totally rocks" :) ) is just that they "totally" not useful.

Please don't get me wrong, i'm not against the polls per se. I would rather see the value of and respect to/of LQ to continue to rise vs. becoming "yet another forum to filter emotions".
You just got my response in the wrong spirit. I meant it (because
of the complexity of the task at hand and the effort involved) as a
COUNTER-EXAMPLE to attempting what you're suggesting. Never
mind, I'll just hope it won't happen - because I wouldn't be taking
the time to complete one of those ;}



Cheers,
Tink

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Old 01-29-2008, 08:01 AM   #60
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1. Mysql is a open source product from a company. not driven by a community. I mean the core decisions are taken by a small set of people.
for example the company got the liberty to say "We stopped further developemnts".
This is not the freedom as expected from a Free software. But i agree that the code quality and design is one of the best in industry

2. Postgres got all advantages like community driven and best in features. one of the Advanced database systems in Open source world. for atleast in small to medium deployments it can replace Oracle like "Industry leaders". but it got a big disadvantage also. it is not thread based. each user connection creates separate process. You know new advancements in Operating systems (including Linux) gives tremendous performance advantages to thread based systems.

3. Firebird came up with "SuperServer" that is capable of taking advantage of new thread capabilities and this project also a community driven. but still lagging in good SMP support which is requied for massive applications. SMP support is promised by the development team for version 3 (still we need to wait). and another dark area is the quality of code.

looking at all these things Postgres is ready for large deployment. but Firebird is more promising

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