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since it's got the speed i find in Firefox, but lots of additional features above FF: integrated mail- and news-client, far better configurable, the Speed Dial and nice security options.
I run the stable version in my company, the beta on my developpement-machine ( on opensuse Factory )
What does everybody here think about the Firefox / Iceweasel thing? It seems in the large that people think the renaming of Debian's version to Iceweasel is silly, but I find myself more believing that the Mozilla project is being silly for not allowing patched versions to be distributed. I can see the desire to protect your name, but come on. The only scenario it really protects is somebody using a version of Firefox that a distribution has broken by patching it to death and thinking that Firefox as a whole is what sucks. But if that user would try the official Mozilla version, they would see that it's not Mozilla's fault. True, patching has historically caused some problems (the XMMS people seem to complain some about people reporting bugs that are actually from patches not the original source), but I think by and large we can agree that when a distribution patches something [Ubuntu does it like crazy, for example] the end result is better. And isn't that part of what being free and open is all about? So anyway, it's pretty clear where I come out on this. More power to you, Iceweasel!
As an Iceweasel user, I say that... the debate is unimaginably stupid. There is no problem with Firefox, I just use Iceweasel because it is included with Zenwalk (and there's no disadvantage to it) and because the logo is awesome.
As an Iceweasel user, I say that... the debate is unimaginably stupid. There is no problem with Firefox, I just use Iceweasel because it is included with Zenwalk (and there's no disadvantage to it) and because the logo is awesome.
You're confusing trademark with copyright law (understandable... since it's not that common to undo a copyright freedom with a trademark restriction for such a pointless reason).
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I tend to disagree. While I am a long time Firefox fan, and use it daily, I have recently found that in my setups, Opera runs just as fast without all of the tweaks. Give it a try, you might be just as surprised as I was.
Now, if you want all of the add-ons, then nothing compares to Firefox.
Firefox + Firetune = Nothing can even come close to the speed that firefox has after firetune not to mention all of the add-ons.
Period. Enough Said.
I suppose that's great for people who want to use WINE or Windows to set up their firefox profile...for others manually doing the tweaks is not hard.
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Now, if you want all of the add-ons, then nothing compares to Firefox.
Exactly. What would Linux be if you couldn't tweak code and add to it? Opera, out the box, has more features then firefox, but you can't add the plethora of addons that you can with firefox. As a result, Opera seems good for people who don't care to tweak code or who only primarily need the built in features.
Unfortunately, I've noticed some Firefox addons make the browser a little more sluggish at times. I imagine that Firefox out of the box is around the same speed as Opera, but if you add all the addons equivalent to Opera's built-in features then Opera would probably take a noticeable lead.
If Opera was open source I imagine that the results of this poll would be different. I don't know if Opera would win, but it probably would have had a lot more votes.
Exactly. What would Linux be if you couldn't tweak code and add to it? Opera, out the box, has more features then firefox, but you can't add the plethora of addons that you can with firefox. As a result, Opera seems good for people who don't care to tweak code or who only primarily need the built in features...
Yeah sure, I bet at least 70% of the people who voted here for FF don't know how to write a single line of C/C++. They voted just because FF is the revelation they got after abandoning IE+WinDos. "Oh my gosh, FF is sooo kewl" attitude. Yeah sure, there is that ring of Open Source sweet music around FF like any other OS app which again can attract young and inexpreienced, but to dust with it, Opera is damn good browser, and probably the only closed source app i respect.Hey Opera people, you hear me?!!! Respect!!!
And if you want plugin rubbish there are widgety widgets in Opera, hhmmmmm weatherreport so useful. What do you people need weather reports anyway? I don't see guys you going fishing.
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