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View Poll Results: Distribution of the Year
Red Hat Enterprise Linux 23 0.99%
Fedora 350 15.09%
Mandrakelinux 235 10.13%
Slackware 449 19.36%
Suse 235 10.13%
Debian 250 10.78%
Knoppix 43 1.85%
Gentoo 314 13.54%
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MEPIS 96 4.14%
LFS 13 0.56%
Ubuntu 176 7.59%
Yoper 32 1.38%
Xandros 27 1.16%
Linspire 17 0.73%
Arch 26 1.12%
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Old 02-01-2005, 11:57 AM   #481
qwijibow
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no FUD here.

last time i looked, the genttoo repository did put others to shame, especially for amd64
 
Old 02-01-2005, 11:57 AM   #482
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yum

yeah yeah

using yum is cheating ! ;-)
 
Old 02-01-2005, 12:01 PM   #483
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Re: yum

Quote:
Originally posted by Hamsjael
yeah yeah

using yum is cheating ! ;-)
That is like saying using "emerge" in gentoo is cheating...

Give up already, they have there +/-


qwijibow, to shame, not really.

Debian sid has a lot more than gentoo.
Fedora is closer or just as many when you add the repo's, so still a mute point and still FUD!

 
Old 02-01-2005, 12:01 PM   #484
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Quote:
Originally posted by cybrjackle
Let's stop the poor rumors now about rpm dep's

Code:
time yum --enablerepo=freshrpms --enablerepo=dag install perl-Video-DVDRip

Dependencies Resolved
Transaction Listing:
  Install: perl-Video-DVDRip.i386 0:0.52.2-1.1.fc3.rf
  Install: perl-Video-DVDRip.x86_64 0:0.52.2-1.1.fc3.fr

Performing the following to resolve dependencies:
  Install: Gtk-Perl.x86_64 0:0.7008-37.1.fc3.fr
  Install: ORBit.x86_64 1:0.5.17-14
  Install: compat-db.x86_64 0:4.1.25-6
  Install: gnome-libs.x86_64 1:1.4.1.2.90-44
  Install: libglade.x86_64 1:0.17-15
  Install: libxml.x86_64 1:1.8.17-12
  Install: ogmtools.x86_64 0:1.5-1.1.fc3.rf
  Install: perl-libintl.noarch 0:1.11-2.1.fc3.rf
  Install: subtitleripper.x86_64 0:0.3.4-1.1.fc3.rf
  Install: vcdimager.x86_64 0:0.7.14-4.1.fc3.rf
Is this ok [y/N]: y

Downloading Packages:
perl-Video-DVDRip-0.52.2- 100% |=========================| 328 kB    00:01
perl-Video-DVDRip-0.52.2- 100% |=========================| 329 kB    00:01
vcdimager-0.7.14-4.1.fc3. 100% |=========================| 664 kB    00:02
Gtk-Perl-0.7008-37.1.fc3. 100% |=========================| 918 kB    00:03
subtitleripper-0.3.4-1.1. 100% |=========================|  50 kB    00:00
perl-libintl-1.11-2.1.fc3 100% |=========================| 1.0 MB    00:03
ogmtools-1.5-1.1.fc3.rf.x 100% |=========================| 197 kB    00:00
gnome-libs-1.4.1.2.90-44. 100% |=========================| 1.0 MB    00:48
libxml-1.8.17-12.x86_64.r 100% |=========================| 228 kB    00:00
libglade-0.17-15.x86_64.r 100% |=========================| 103 kB    00:06
ORBit-0.5.17-14.x86_64.rp 100% |=========================| 372 kB    00:18
compat-db-4.1.25-6.x86_64 100% |=========================| 921 kB    00:55
Running Transaction Test
Finished Transaction Test
Transaction Test Succeeded
Running Transaction
Installing: libxml 100 % done 1/12
Installing: ogmtools 100 % done 2/12
Installing: perl-libintl 100 % done 3/12
Installing: subtitleripper 100 % done 4/12
Installing: vcdimager 100 % done 5/12
Installing: compat-db 100 % done 6/12
Installing: ORBit 100 % done 7/12
Installing: gnome-libs 100 % done 8/12
Installing: libglade 100 % done 9/12
Installing: Gtk-Perl 100 % done 10/12
Installing: perl-Video-DVDRip 100 % done 11/12
Installing: perl-Video-DVDRip 100 % done 12/12

Installed: perl-Video-DVDRip.i386 0:0.52.2-1.1.fc3.rf perl-Video-DVDRip.x86_64 0:0.52.2-1.1.fc3.fr
Dependency Installed: Gtk-Perl.x86_64 0:0.7008-37.1.fc3.fr ORBit.x86_64 1:0.5.17-14 compat-db.x86_64 0:4.1.25-6 gnome-libs.x86_64 1:1.4.1.2.90-44 libglade.x86_64 1:0.17-15 libxml.x86_64 1:1.8.17-12 ogmtools.x86_64 0:1.5-1.1.fc3.rf perl-libintl.noarch 0:1.11-2.1.fc3.rf subtitleripper.x86_64 0:0.3.4-1.1.fc3.rf vcdimager.x86_64 0:0.7.14-4.1.fc3.rf
Complete!

real    3m24.012s
user    0m13.079s
sys     0m2.028s
30 Minutes eh? Boy I remmember when it used to take me that long to install software, now only 3 minutes :lol:



BTW, i've been running Gentoo since 1.0 so you don't need to feed me, just stop the FUD already........
Just a note: Perl-Video-DVDRip isn't the same thing as DVD::rip.
 
Old 02-01-2005, 12:04 PM   #485
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cybrjackle:

is cheating too...... buhuh..
 
Old 02-01-2005, 12:08 PM   #486
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transcode

cybrjackle:

btw.

I dont see anything about transcode and ITS depndencies, AND all the codecs. in your post. maybe you got it installed already, maybe yum just ignored it.
 
Old 02-01-2005, 12:08 PM   #487
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Mandrake!
 
Old 02-01-2005, 12:11 PM   #488
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Quote:
Originally posted by riskable
Just a note: Perl-Video-DVDRip isn't the same thing as DVD::rip.
Quote:
ABOUT

dvd::rip is a full featured DVD copy program written in Perl. It provides an easy to use but feature-rich Gtk+ GUI to control almost all aspects of the ripping and transcoding process. It uses the widely known video processing swissknife transcode and many other Open Source tools. dvd::rip itself is licensed under GPL / Perl Artistic License.
http://www.exit1.org/dvdrip/


It's a perl/gtk app, the depo just names it perl-dvd:rip

 
Old 02-01-2005, 12:13 PM   #489
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Just for reference, I figured I'd post what it's like to install dvdrip in Gentoo since someone pointed out how it's done with Fedora/Red Hat (with the incorrect package):
Code:
enki ~ # esearch dvdrip
[ Results for search key : dvdrip ]
[ Applications found : 2 ]

*  media-video/lxdvdrip
      Latest version available: 1.41_p3
      Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
      Size of downloaded files: 445 kB
      Homepage:    http://developer.berlios.de/projects/lxdvdrip/
      Description: command line tool to automate the process of ripping and burning DVD
      License:     GPL-2

*  media-video/dvdrip
      Latest version available: 0.52.0
      Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
      Size of downloaded files: 407 kB
      Homepage:    http://www.exit1.org/dvdrip/
      Description: dvd::rip is a graphical frontend for transcode
      License:     Artistic GPL-2


enki ~ # emerge -pv dvdrip

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  N    ] dev-perl/XML-Writer-0.510  17 kB
[ebuild  NS   ] x11-libs/gtkglarea-1.2.3-r1  284 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-perl/gtk-perl-0.7009  +gnome +opengl 436 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-perl/Test-Harness-2.42  58 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-perl/Test-1.25  16 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-perl/Event-1.00  239 kB
[ebuild     U ] media-video/transcode-0.6.14 [0.6.11] -3dnow +X -a52 (-altivec) +avi -debug -divx4linux -dv -dvdread +encode -fame +gtk +imagemagick +jpeg -lzo +mjpeg +mmx +mpeg -network +oggvorbis -pvm +quicktime +sdl +sse +sse2* -static +theora +truetype -v4l +xml2 +xvid* 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-perl/libintl-perl-1.10  385 kB
[ebuild  N    ] gnome-base/oaf-0.6.10  +nls 425 kB
[ebuild  N    ] gnome-base/gnome-print-0.37  +nls 750 kB
[ebuild  N    ] gnome-base/bonobo-1.0.22  +nls 1,158 kB
[ebuild  NS   ] gnome-base/gconf-1.0.9  +nls 765 kB
[ebuild  N    ] gnome-base/gnome-common-2.8.0  -debug 57 kB
[ebuild  NS   ] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-1.0.5-r3  -doc +nls +ssl 1,024 kB
[ebuild  N    ] gnome-base/control-center-1.4.0.5-r1  +nls 3,303 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-libs/libunicode-0.4-r1  206 kB
[ebuild  NS   ] gnome-base/libglade-0.17-r6  -bonobo +nls 409 kB
[ebuild  NS   ] gnome-extra/gal-0.24  -doc +nls 1,011 kB
[ebuild  N    ] gnome-base/libghttp-1.0.9-r4  143 kB
[ebuild  N    ] gnome-extra/gtkhtml-1.1.10-r1  +nls 1,005 kB
[ebuild  N    ] media-sound/ogmtools-1.5  +dvd 209 kB
[ebuild  N    ] net-analyzer/fping-2.4_beta2-r1  59 kB
[ebuild  N    ] media-video/dvdrip-0.52.0  +cdr +gnome 407 kB

Total size of downloads: 12,377 kB
The "-blah" or "+blah" next to each package is the list of options that will be enabled or disabled when it's compiled. If I wanted transcode to be compiled without mjpeg support, I would change my USE flags and it would be disabled.

I'll time this entire install since it's a large amount of dependencies. Last time I emerged transcode it took about 5 minutes and I'm guessing its the longest of all those packages:
Code:
enki ~ # genlop --time transcode
 * media-video/transcode

     Fri Jan 28 00:19:01 2005 >>> media-video/transcode-0.6.11
       merge time: 5 minutes and 46 seconds.
I'm going to start the emerge now and time it. I'll post again later when it's done and post the entire emerge time. I will continue working in the background during the compile.

Hopefully this will shed some light on what it's like to run Gentoo.
 
Old 02-01-2005, 12:24 PM   #490
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I've already pointed out that it is the correct package. And the fact that I have/still use gentoo since 1.0 should pretty much tell you I don't need you to tell me how it works. Thx for the try though.
 
Old 02-01-2005, 12:26 PM   #491
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Re: transcode

Quote:
Originally posted by Hamsjael
cybrjackle:

btw.

I dont see anything about transcode and ITS depndencies, AND all the codecs. in your post. maybe you got it installed already, maybe yum just ignored it.
Yep, was already installed.
 
Old 02-01-2005, 12:29 PM   #492
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transcode already installed

hmmm........ sure?? :-D
 
Old 02-01-2005, 12:30 PM   #493
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Quote:
Originally posted by cybrjackle
http://www.exit1.org/dvdrip/


It's a perl/gtk app, the depo just names it perl-dvd:rip

Sorry, I assumed that since yum didn't install many of the real dependencies for dvd::rip that it was a completely different package (i.e. transcode and it's dependencies). You probably already had them installed.
 
Old 02-01-2005, 12:31 PM   #494
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Slackware baby, Slacker till the end
 
Old 02-01-2005, 12:34 PM   #495
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I must say that the dependancy problems, and stabilty, of Mandrake is why I switched to Gentoo. I looked at Slack but I really liked the forums for Gentoo. No offence meant there. They are Gentoo and pretty much only Gentoo there. The mods keep the forums very clean as well.

I could never get Mandrake to run more than a week or so on this rig without problems. I am currently at 83 days with Gentoo. I do log out of the GUI on occasion, usually when something in KDE or xorg has been upgraded. Other than that, I am way more stable than I ever was with Mandrake. I even have way more stuff installd than I did then.

If my Hard drive crashed and I had to have something to get on the net with to get a new drive, I would install Mandrake on some old drive. As soon as that drive came in though, Mandrake would be out of there. Gentoo would be compiling.

Gentoo likely has more than will appear in this forum since they have their own forums. I know I'm not here as much as I used to be. Gentoo is not discussed here as much naturally. I do like the forums here though. Jeremy is pretty cool and all. Wish Gentoo forums would move here in a way.

IMHO, Gentoo is way easier than all the others, especially Mandrake and rpm distros. Two commands and go eat some supper and come back. It is done. Open Office is the biggest compile I have. They do have a binary install though, since it is so big.

Gentoo is really worth a try. It gets better every day.

Code:
root@smoker / # uptime
 11:33:59 up 83 days,  5:10,  4 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.07
root@smoker / #
Later

 
  


 


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