agreed, fluxbox owns!

I downloaded this a long time ago but couldn't get it to compile on the ancient crap distro I was on at the time. Your mentioning it made me remember to download it again, but it kind of sat around for awhile. I really got into figuring it out just now and there are some things I don't like/things that need work (and either the harbour is nothing like a flux slit or it's broken) but this thing is actually in fluxbox's class to me - and I'd yet to see anything (but blackbox, of course) that could touch fluxbox. Very cool.

Have you tried kahakai? I'd definitely recommend it

Hm. I'd seen that around but never paid any attention to it beyond checking out the site, since it was a waimea fork. I can't remember why, but I didn't really like waimea. Of course, being a fork, it could be much improved/different. Maybe I'll give that a spin someday.

Y'know, thinking about forks and types, there's stuff like xwin.org or whatever, but does anyone know of a comprehensive 'family tree' of window managers, that maybe sorts them into tribes and families? I don't know if folks have seen the chart someone did of Unix history but something like that would be cool for window managers.

I liked waimea, but then I like kahakai a lot more. It just seems the most accesible if you want to customise things a little bit, and you haven't found a WM that quite suits yet. Mind you, it's ages since I tried flux...
As for the family tree, something like that would definitely interest me, but i haven't heard of one.

i have tryed kahakai but i still prefer fluxbox, not loads more just slightly

Agreed, Flux is a very nice wm, but whenever i have another go at Flux, or any other wm, for that matter, I end up back in good old Enlightenment.
The tabs in Flux are brilliant, but E seems to work best for me, looks the best and gives me the least hung X-servers.

indeed but i have not tryed many others?

I think it was IceWM [wats the WM for be sure it is not Window Maker]

whats up with afterstep?

not very nice to use?

Just not very popular.

Enlightenment rules my desktop. Ever since learning about it back in the E14 days, it has been home on my machine ever since. It's lightweight, fast and slick-looking, as Rasterman & Co has intended it to be. I've played with Black/Flux boxen, WM, AfterStep, and sawfish, and after using them all, I found myself going back to Enlightenment (this is true even against heavyweight DEs Gnome and KDE). It's here to stay.

And with the E16.6 release, it's support of GTK2 and KDE3 has been much improved and it now fully supports freedesktop.org X enhancements and now properly supports XFree86 4.3 cursers.

I don't use any of them, I use Kahakai http://kahakai.sourceforge.net :: Make that a write in

Wow, I tried ratpoison after reading about it in an article. It's .... different

My vote goes to flux!

ratpoison heheh