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You can now vote for your favorite products of 2003. This is your chance to be heard!

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View Poll Results: Database of the Year
MySQL 405 36.45%
Postgres 269 24.21%
Oracle 25 2.25%
DB2 2 0.18%
Sybase 3 0.27%
Berkley DB 4 0.36%
Firebird 403 36.27%
Voters: 1111. You may not vote on this poll

 
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Old 11-23-2003, 08:03 AM   #91
Mephisto
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I suppose the question arises though what is the point of a members poll if people are only becoming a member to vote for their particular pet application. Don't get me wrong, I think Firebird is a fine product and have used it. But I question whether the vote is skewed outside of what is the established user base of the LQ forums.

Slackware might on the surface seem also a skewed result until you take into account that one of the more active (I would go as far as saying the most active) Slackware forums is here on LQ. So from a standpoint of Linux over the world it seems skewed, but not from the perspective of the established membership at these forums.

If, on the other hand the poll is meant to be nothing more than a popularity contest, i.e. How many people can be bothered to register and vote, then the results for Firebird are not only fine, but probably expected. I know of no other low-pricepoint DB that inspires loyalty and grassroots support the way Firebird does. No harm done either way. It is all fun and games.
 
Old 11-23-2003, 01:19 PM   #92
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bulshit.. Firebird is good

Your talking bulshit.
There is no reason that Firebird shouldnt win.

All other that is talking bad of Firebird, dont know what they are talking about.

Firebird will be the best database every time there is a voting system. I know it.

So i will disegree with all you people that just comment on Firebird in a bad way without having any thing to back it up. Shame on you.

It's a fakt that Firebird is very good database for 1 user and also the enterprise.

Try to say otherwise. Hey.... and, back it up with something. Just dont come here and tell us a story about that Firebird is not good..

I have made a new aplication that uses Firebird now. it have never crashed in 8 month...

5 computers uses Firebird in this company.

NEWER CRASHED... STABLE... EASY TO SET UP(in 2 minuts)... It ruules...

So... come on dudes... try to tell me that Firebird is not good.

I posting this reply because i didnt like the bad comments on Firebird.

Firebird is good. For all.
 
Old 11-23-2003, 03:21 PM   #93
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Talking Re: Firebird!!!!

Quote:
Originally posted by sesummers
Why isn't this a choice???
yeeesss.
Firebird appeared of the ashes and it detonated!!!
thanks to you and the others that called for him...

Luiz "RedDevil" Stefanski
www.thereddevil.hpg.com.br
 
Old 11-23-2003, 06:13 PM   #94
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Hey vigjam,

We're talking about databases here. Take a deep breath and chill. I think most of the people here are intelligent enough not to take an opinion that "Firebird is not ready for the enterprise" very seriously unless it is backed up by some quantifiable statistics. The ones who do take it seriously probably aren't going to be persuaded by you venting a spleen on them.

You said "Shame on you" for someone making a negative comment about Firebird. Coming into an online community and using deletive expletives and fussing at the other posters like they're children is bad form too. They were expressing an opinion (right or wrong). You're exhibiting bad manners. You'll win more converts through tempered reason than belligerence.

The people who aren't using Firebird have plenty of other good databases to choose from. A negative impression of the Firebird community can negate a lot of positive facts. Database statistics aren't everything. The type of people they're going to have to deal with when they need support is important too.
 
Old 11-23-2003, 07:32 PM   #95
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Quote:
Originally posted by dcaillouet

...Database statistics aren't everything. The type of people they're going to have to deal with when they need support is important too. [/B]
I believe in the open source world the type of people you deal with can be more important then having the best product - (Products can grow and get better - Bad support usually gets worse.) Bad manors can kill a good project.
 
Old 11-23-2003, 08:36 PM   #96
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I agree that a negative statement should be at least backup by something. A reasonable statement should be acceptable among intelligent people whether positive or negative. If not, better just say "I'm satisfied with MySQL or PostGres or FB because it has almost everything for my need", rather than comparing with the other one without any brief justification.
 
Old 11-23-2003, 09:09 PM   #97
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MySQL -> Firebird

I started-out using MySQL, and although it all worked, I felt like the DBMS was a toy. At that time, it had not transactions, stored procedures, triggers.
I switched to Firebird when Interbase was open-sourced, and I can't believe that this amazing piece of software is without licensing fees. It is rock-solid and full-featured, and runs like lightning on the most basic computers. I have used it for all our programming including Unix web servers, standalone Windows-Delphi apps, Linux telephony servers, etc. and I have never once had a problem with the software.
Probably 50% of my program code is within stored procedures and triggers, and this is the only to develop database applications so my advise to you MySQL programmers is: get Firebird and enter the real world of database development.
 
Old 11-23-2003, 09:35 PM   #98
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Bad manners

Quote:
Originally posted by gatorarts
I believe in the open source world the type of people you deal with can be more important then having the best product - (Products can grow and get better - Bad support usually gets worse.) Bad manors can kill a good project.
Obviously, with the original poster, English is his 2nd language so you have to take what he says (and his tone) with a grain of salt. I'm surprised that 2 posters would take his comments so literally when he is obviously struggling with the English lanaguage.
 
Old 11-23-2003, 10:34 PM   #99
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Thumbs down Re: Hey vigjam,

putz.

mr dcaillouet,
I didn't understand where I enter in this story...
\


ha, now I understood... it was not with me, you just used my msg for your replay...
;o)


but, sells your words, I believe that you are one MySQL or PostgreSQL user.

sorry for you,
but, as I wrote before, FirebirdSQL appeared of the ashes and is detonating, razing, 'cause he is not just the database of the year, but the best database of the world!!!
;o)

MySQL and PostgreSQL users, just believe and swallow this.

hello,
hello,
hello,
how low...
;o)))


Luiz "RedDevil" Stefanski
www.thereddevil.hpg.com.br
 
Old 11-24-2003, 05:24 AM   #100
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by dcaillouet
[B]Hey vigjam,


We're talking about databases here. Take a deep breath and chill. I think most of the people here are intelligent enough not to take an opinion that "Firebird is not ready for the enterprise" very seriously unless it is backed up by some quantifiable statistics. The ones who do take it seriously probably aren't going to be persuaded by you venting a spleen on them.

You dont understand this. You have to read between the lines.

You said "Shame on you" for someone making a negative comment about Firebird.

Dont be so serios dude

The people who aren't using Firebird have plenty of other good databases to choose from.

I dont talk about oter databases at all. I only talk about Firebird. And i have not talked about the others. The are maybe good to.. But i dont care

So... dont be so damn serios about how i write..

Its a fakt that Firebird is good.
 
Old 11-24-2003, 06:59 AM   #101
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Quote:
Originally posted by vigjam
So... dont be so damn serios about how i write..
I apologize for my inability to "read between the lines". If you read enough of my posts you won't take everything I say so seriously either.

Quote:
Originally posted by vigjam
Its a fakt that Firebird is good.
True.
 
Old 11-24-2003, 07:18 AM   #102
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hehe.. ok my friend.
 
Old 11-24-2003, 07:25 AM   #103
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Re: bulshit.. Firebird is good

Quote:
Originally posted by vigjam
Your talking bulshit.
There is no reason that Firebird shouldnt win.
[skip]
Firebird is good. For all.
Vigjam, Firebird should not win but take place which it merits. If more people will say any another candidate is better - it will mean this candidate is more used, or it's community is more informed about survey or more consolidated around favourite project. Survey shows namely this, not which DBMS is better. Note most persons here speaks _for_ something, not _against_ something. It is good tune. And I surely can say there is area where MySQL beats all - simple web applications with no care about data integrity and server-side busyness rules. What about juggling with nice words like Enterprise - I'm just smiling We are technicians and should argue with something which can be measured

Best regards,
Alexander V.Nevsky, Firebird Foundation full member.
 
Old 11-24-2003, 08:08 AM   #104
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Firebird has a lot to offer

I'm very pleased (and surprised) to see that Firebird is doing so well in this poll.

In preparing to start my own business, I looked at both PostgreSQL and MySQL. There were strong points in favour of each, but also some not inconsiderable negative points.

It seems to me that Firebird has 98% of the good points of PostgreSQL (but has more native binaries than PostgreSQL), and Firebird has all the good points of MySQL (but is truly free and has far more of the features one expects from a relational database).

I had used Oracle extensively in my previous occupation. When I started up my own business I got DB2 bundled with other server software. But I chose not to use it, because I had already been looking at Firebird for quite some time.

After looking at the feature list of DB2, there was only one feature that Firebird did not have built-in and for free(replication - a separate commercial product is available).

But the complexities of the DB2 install were enough to put me off even looking at it any further. Firebird can do all the things I need (I wrote my own data replication app).

The documentation for Firebird 1.5 is coming along (one can use the old Interbase 6 documentation set, which is very comprehensive.) And the support for Firebird on the Yahoo Groups forum is very impressive.

Those who have not yet come to appreciate what Firebird has to offer should see how many platforms it is available for, install it, get the documentation, and see what benefits they can get from it. Maybe PostgreSQL or MySQL is perfect for your needs - but Firebird has plenty to offer.
 
Old 11-24-2003, 12:53 PM   #105
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Re: Re: bulshit.. Firebird is good

Quote:
Originally posted by Ded
Vigjam, Firebird should not win but take place which it merits. If more And I surely can say there is area where MySQL beats all - simple web applications with no care about data integrity and server-side busyness rules.
Yes.. i agree with you. I agree that others can do a better job on different things.
I ment that i think Firebird will win anyway.
And i also think that Firebird will be placed with it's merits.
I also belive that Firebird will explode in populartity soon. Because the guys have done a wonderful job on it.

I totaly agree with you on this quote.

Best regards
 
  


 


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