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Old 01-10-2014, 09:16 PM   #1
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Will the BSD packages ever catch up with linux versions


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The subject line says it all. I don't like running older versions of firefox while linux users get the latest version. Is it a matter of market share that linux is more widely used than the BSDs?


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Old 01-10-2014, 09:23 PM   #2
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I suppose marketshare plays a part yes, however, bsd aims to be rock solid. If you get stuff like centos, debian and rhel, they tend to be a little behind as well, but they shine for servers.

So as a router, which i have a version of bsd, it really is more solid and i don't have to sweat so much for getting hacked or worry to much else.
 
Old 01-10-2014, 09:32 PM   #3
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Hi

The subject line says it all. I don't like running older versions of firefox while linux users get the latest version. Is it a matter of market share that linux is more widely used than the BSDs?


Thx
The BSDs do tend to lag behind in version numbers compared to Linux. For me stability and security is more important than running the latest version of a package.
 
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Old 01-10-2014, 10:12 PM   #4
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I understand the stability and security thing, and I am fine with other packages lagging behind a bit but I believe browsers should be the latest because browsers developers fix security holes and bugs. You don't want to run a dated browser in the wild Internet.


Anyway, thanks ericson007 & hitest for the speedy replies
 
Old 01-11-2014, 01:55 AM   #5
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I can assure you that the browser you are using is patched for security. It may not support the latest and greatest web inovations, but then again most sites don't use that technology.

Your browser will not be distributed with bsd if there were major security issues
 
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@BSDRocks

Which packages exactly You mean? ... and comparing to which Linux?
 
Old 01-13-2014, 01:20 PM   #7
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Which packages exactly You mean? ... and comparing to which Linux?
You'll have to experience the usage of the BSDs ports and the major linux distro's repos to understand what I mean. But believe me and others who use BSDs solely or on a casual basis, the packages are a bit behind from the major linux distros.

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Old 01-13-2014, 03:21 PM   #8
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Well, why is bsd your main choice for desktop work? I do use it but it sits on edge devices. Same as I stated with centos. Some machines still run centos 5 that also lacks in package versions but the machines do what is required, and they still have security updates.
 
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I do have a linux distro in a VM in case I need it.
 
Old 01-13-2014, 04:15 PM   #10
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The bottom line is if you can get bsd to work for you, you will have an extremely secure and solid machine to work with.
 
Old 01-15-2014, 03:59 PM   #11
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If you're using FreeBSD, both Firefox and Firefox ESR are up-to-date in the ports system.
 
Old 01-17-2014, 02:42 AM   #12
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Why should BSD have to play catch up? In terms of POV, BSD is more advanced than GNU/Linux ever will be as a project as it's developed as a singular unit where as Linux still gets developed as a fractured project with a sense of chaos and near zero solidarity on the future of the core.

The faults of software rest with developers not properly supporting non-Linux based operating systems like BSD.

BSD supports the most modern file system available, ZFS. The Core and Kernel are developed in unity resulting in stability harder than titanium. The BSD license is less restrictive than the GNU GPL license ever will be.

Of course this doesn't mean BSD is completely superior, and in fact no OS is superior than any other. Each OS is developed around an idea that is not always perfect across the board with other systems equally. Windows, FreeDOS, OSX, GNU/Linux, BSD, OpenIndiana, Solaris, HP-UX... all have their own specialty and strengths.

And POV of course will vary by opinion of each person.

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Old 01-17-2014, 06:51 AM   #13
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Well, even though i don't use bsd across the board, you cannot really beat it's security.

How many vulnarbilities again??? Bet you lot less 0 day issues than just about anything out there. It is a great system and am considering it to play a bigger role in my network setup, but not just yet.
 
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Why should BSD have to play catch up? In terms of POV, BSD is more advanced than GNU/Linux ever will be as a project as it's developed as a singular unit where as Linux still gets developed as a fractured project with a sense of chaos and near zero solidarity on the future of the core.
I won't argue with you about whether or not BSD is more advanced/superior than Linux. Linux has been more fully embraced than the BSDs. The BSDs have made significant inroads with some companies, FreeBSD and Netflix come to mind.
 
Old 01-18-2014, 09:12 AM   #15
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Very true. Bsd is a great operating system but linux to me just feels easier. Not that linux is perfect, but i started with red hat ages ago just because i happened to get my hands on it. Since then i switched to linux based systems and never looked back.

Bsd is great but my impression of it is still i need to be an uber admin to use it. Not sure why that is, but i suppose i t is a bit like microsoft to linux. I know linux sort of, but bsd just seems like a jump out my comfort zone due to time limits.

I do use pfsense and it is great, but actaul bsd admin sort of scares me. I am comfortable with centos and debian, not great but i can get them to do what i need.

Bsd to me, great but actual admin... they don't have th little devil as a mascot for nothing.
 
  


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