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Old 07-14-2014, 04:06 AM   #1
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Smile new install BSD, and wow...


...did that go smooth. I planned a weekend for this
okay, so, at the moment of writing, I'm updating the new system (just to be clean) and have some questions...
So, is there a more "browsable" catalogue of the ports (as I gather, this is what the packages are called) and - hehe - is there a Second Life viewer ported to free BSD? I'd assume that THAT'd be a great benchmark...hehe
Thanks!
Thor
Edit - there seems to be one, from Linden...but it's a self-compile...fair enough...still...why not actually...

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Old 07-14-2014, 06:32 AM   #2
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Assuming you're using freebsd, these are worth bookmarking:
http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html
http://www.freshports.org/

Also check in /usr/ports/portmgmt

It's full of software for managing ports, i imagine there might be some graphical browsers for them, probably dialog/ncurses based.
 
Old 07-14-2014, 08:36 AM   #3
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In addition to ports you can install binary packages on FreeBSD 10.0 with:

# pkg install nameofpackage

You will then be prompted to bootstrap, install the new pkgng package management system.
 
Old 07-14-2014, 01:37 PM   #4
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...did that go smooth. I planned a weekend for this
okay, so, at the moment of writing, I'm updating the new system (just to be clean) and have some questions...
So, is there a more "browsable" catalogue of the ports (as I gather, this is what the packages are called) and - hehe - is there a Second Life viewer ported to free BSD? I'd assume that THAT'd be a great benchmark...hehe
Thanks!
Thor
Edit - there seems to be one, from Linden...but it's a self-compile...fair enough...still...why not actually...
That was my reaction exactly after my own recent install of FreeBSD! WOW!

I found the make-based tools for ports to my liking and found it not too difficult and very beneficial to study the man pages and read through the top level makefiles in /usr/ports/Mk. This fit my own habits very well, although if you prefer a GUI based tool I am sure they are there for you!

Be sure to create the directory /usr/ports/packages, or define PKGREPOSITORY if you want to build your own packages and keep an archive of them - makes it mostly automatic.

If using ports as your pkg manager, query installed packages with pkg info |grep pkgname and other constructs, and discover dependencies and other info with various make targets from ports - man pages as always.

Best of luck!

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Old 07-14-2014, 08:15 PM   #5
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Thanks for the report. BSD's have been hanging in there for decades and from what you guys say, it still is good to have around.
 
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Old 07-15-2014, 04:38 AM   #6
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...but, it's NOT Linux, let that be boted...
Eh, I had my teeth in Solaris too way back when, I love the challenge...
Still...FreeBSD as a desktop? Hmmm, why no really...
Thor
 
Old 07-15-2014, 08:42 AM   #7
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Still...FreeBSD as a desktop? Hmmm, why no really...
Thor
At the moment I'm running Gnome 2 on FreeBSD 10.0. I'm running XFCE on this OpenBSD box.
Are you asking a question or making a general rhetorical comment? I'm glad you like the BSDs.
 
Old 07-15-2014, 11:25 AM   #8
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Running KDE 4 (for now) on OpenBSD 5.5 here - no problems at all. As with any BSD check that your hardware is supported and go for whichever one does. With OpenBSD (and also Dragonfly BSD I believe) it's best to steer clear if you have nvidia hardware as there is no support for it. FreeBSD does have support from the nvidia proprietary blob.
 
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Old 07-15-2014, 12:25 PM   #9
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hey Thor_2.0 get with me in secondlife drakeo and I will teach you how to compile the viewer ok. it will compile in bsd. you will have to remember that the viewer does build ok . But in 2012 they broke html5 and flash on a prim so it would run in windows 8. I enjoy playing with the viewer it is a huge machine. Teach you how to build it standalone for faster better viewer experience. here is my HG . https://bitbucket.org/Drakeo as I post right now I will be pushing my latest updates of the 64 bit FS Viewer with openjpeg 1.5 qtwebkit 4.8.2 and yes all the media works. it is a open sim build also.
the build system has changed radically since 2011 and this could be a fun project to take on.

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Old 07-16-2014, 03:35 AM   #10
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@ hitest
Quote:
Are you asking a question or making a general rhetorical comment?
Well, I always wanted some "safe" environment" to work in (yea, I also love my teddybear, so there ) as I practically "live" on the Net. I had some severe attacks in the past when I still used the "other one" - so my ultimate goal would be to set up a viable desktop for everyday use and development (into HTML5 and webGL at the moment)...
And...actually, I'd like to set up a step-by-step to set up such a desktop in a matter of hours using PKG instead of the ports....
For all the qualities (ports provide a cleaner and leaner executable suited to the specifics of the box) they require a lengthy compile. I've started a compile of the Xorg once...needless to say that a newcommer may not be able to stomach this...

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I'm glad you like the BSDs.
Always have, just needed a suitable space PC to play with...

And a learning curve it is. I tried to compile the nVidia driver and - needed the kernel source, of course, I can be soooo "blond"...
Now, I need to learn how to get the soure code in there. I cannot use bdsconfig, as I did an install with an older medium...oh, it upgraded, but the baked-in stuff of the util did not upgrade alon...soooo, more studying...hehe
Eh, I'll get there...

Ow yea, I love BSD...but..and newcommer has to be aware of a simple fact:

BSD not Linux

Thor
 
Old 07-16-2014, 03:38 AM   #11
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@ Drakeo
Will do, I lost my account to a female friend of mine, she's still around I think...hehe, I gave my account as a christmas present since she could'nt set one up for herself...
I should make a new account any day now and link with ya...hope "some" of the familiar Sims are still in there
I used to use Singularity, but, since source is around, the one theory should apply to the other, i assume
Thor
 
Old 07-16-2014, 07:02 AM   #12
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Well, I always wanted some "safe" environment" to work in (yea, I also love my teddybear, so there ) as I practically "live" on the Net. I had some severe attacks in the past when I still used the "other one" - so my ultimate goal would be to set up a viable desktop for everyday use and development (into HTML5 and webGL at the moment)...
And...actually, I'd like to set up a step-by-step to set up such a desktop in a matter of hours using PKG instead of the ports....
For all the qualities (ports provide a cleaner and leaner executable suited to the specifics of the box) they require a lengthy compile. I've started a compile of the Xorg once...needless to say that a newcommer may not be able to stomach this...
Yeah, OpenBSD is my security blanket. It definately helps me to feel safer out in the wilds of the net.
I do have ports installed on my OpenBSD box, but, I prefer to install most of my applications using pkg_add. Yes. Ports does give you a lean and mean system, but, as you noted it can take a bit of time to compile things. Using # pkg install xorg gives you a working xorg in a few minutes. The FreeBSD handbook has exceptional documentation on how to set-up xorg and an assortment of desktop environments.

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Old 07-16-2014, 10:13 PM   #13
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I run FreeBSD 10 with Xfce on a spare partition. It's a nice desktop OS actually, but you have to customize a bit to your liking, but still...
 
Old 07-17-2014, 08:22 AM   #14
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OpenBSD
how to install it???
 
Old 07-17-2014, 08:26 AM   #15
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how to install it???
You can buy a CD from openbsd.org or you can install OpenBSD using the install iso from an ftp server. Just follow the prompts. Check out this link on how to get XFCE up and running.

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...os-4175488437/
 
  


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