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Old 07-01-2003, 10:00 PM   #1
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Disk Label Editor


Ok..I am trying to install FreeBSD 5.1. I have a system with two ide drives, one 8 gig, and one 30 gig. The 8 gig contains my win2k load, and is the master. The 30 gig has slackware 9, and it is set to slave. Right now the setup works great, and I can dual boot w/ no problem.
My plan is to install FreeBSD 5.1 on the 30 gig, thus blowing away my slack install. (I love slackware..just want to play around w/ FreeBSD). I have read through the instructions in the handbook, but I am still hitting a wall. I boot off the cd, and select standard installation. I select the 2nd drive (30 gig), and say for bsd to use the whole drive. I then select to install the bsd boot loader on my win2k drive. Now, when I get to the disk label editor, there are no partions listed. I hit "c" to create a new slice, and I get a message saying a master partition must be selected. How do I get the 30 gig drive to appear in the disk label editor? Also, what is the difference between my swap partition in linux, and a swap "slice" in BSD?
 
Old 07-02-2003, 06:19 PM   #2
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What are the values for partition name and disk listed at the top of the window?
 
Old 07-02-2003, 09:52 PM   #3
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Thanks for the reply. I will attempt to run the install again, and see what the values say. Though I don't think there were any values listed, almost like it wasn't seeing either disk. Which, is weird since both were available in determing where bsd would be installed.
 
Old 07-03-2003, 11:47 AM   #4
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I think Disklabel can only look at one disk at a time - I could be wrong here - while sysinstall would look at all hardware. You just want to install the boot loader on the MS disk. The rest should go on the secondary, right?

Slice vs partition? A slice contains paritions. In your case, there would be a slice dedicated to winblows and one for BSD. Each slice would then contain the paritions ( /, /home on BSD or C: on M$ ) for it's OS.

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2.5.5 Creating Slices on Another Drive

If there is more than one drive, it will return to the Select Drives screen after the boot manager selection. If you wish to install FreeBSD on to more than one disk, then you can select another disk here and repeat the slice process using FDisk.
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from freebsd.org installtion guide.
 
Old 07-03-2003, 12:35 PM   #5
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Okay...I have tried to install again. Here is what is happening. When running the "fdisk" portion of the setup, I select my second drive and use "A" to allocate all of the drive.(ads1) I then get prompted if I want to install a boot loader. I say "ok", and select the first drive (ads0) since that is where win2k resides. (it is also the master drive in the ide chain) When I get to the disk label editor, neither drive is listed at the top of the screen. So, I tried it again. I selected the second drive to install bsd, allocating all of the drive. When prompted to install a boot loader, I selected none. When I got to the disk label editor, the second drive was listed at the top (ads1), and I could make my partions. Obviously, I could not continue, since I need a boot manager. Any thoughts here? Could this be a prob with the 5.1 setup, maybe I should try 5.0? I would really like to get this running. Perhaps I could go through with the install, and install the boot manager afterwards. Is there a way to do this If I boot from the c.d.?
 
Old 07-03-2003, 12:55 PM   #6
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Could this be a prob with the 5.1 setup, maybe I should try 5.0?
I would recommend 4.8 unless you have a specific need for something offered in the current branch, release is obviously more stable.

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Then I get to the disk label editor, neither drive is listed at the top of the screen.
What was? What were your options here?

When you get to the INSTALL BOOT MGR screen, have you tried F1 for help to see if any tidbits apply to your situation?

Is your M$ C: drive NTFS?

As long as you can somehow boot to your OS, you can alwasy install a boot mgr after the fact. I believe there is a port for grub
 
Old 07-03-2003, 01:03 PM   #7
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There were no drives listed at the top of the disk label editor. Yes, the windows drive is ntfs. However, if I elected not to install a boot manager, the drive would be listed there. I have downloaded the iso's for 5.0 and 5.1, so maybe I will try 5.0. I have a nvidia GeForce card, and want to have 3d acceleration for games. (ut2003, nwn)
 
Old 07-03-2003, 01:04 PM   #8
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Oh, Idid try the help screens, and nothing was there that applied to my situation. In fact I was doing exactly what they prescribed.
 
Old 07-03-2003, 01:40 PM   #9
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Think we're missing something simple, but I am at a loss -

BTW - kudos for going bsd for gaming - probably the worst OS for that taks which is usually relegated to linux.
 
Old 07-03-2003, 05:11 PM   #10
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I would guess the "kudos" part of your post is sarcastic? Gaming is not the only reason I would try bsd. Obviously windows is much better suited for that. I have 2 games I enjoy, (ut2003, and nwn) both of which are ported to linux. I've got em both running fine under slack, and thought it would be fun to get them running under bsd. In fact I found a few guides for getting both to run under bsd that seem pretty straight forward. Anyway, thanks for your previous suggestions.
 
Old 07-03-2003, 05:30 PM   #11
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I was just stating that, as you pointed out, BSD is not a gamer's OS. That said, anyone who uses it in that fashion - whether primary function or not - deserves as much respect for his/her patience as those who fancy my favorite hobby: cat herding no sarcasm here. Not in this thread anyway...
 
Old 07-03-2003, 05:37 PM   #12
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Cat herding...I'll have to give that a try. Aanyway, I am downloading the 4.8 iso as I type. So, I will give that a try later. I'll let you know how things work out.
 
Old 07-03-2003, 05:52 PM   #13
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cheers
 
Old 07-06-2003, 08:27 AM   #14
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I got the boot loader working about 1 month ago when I installed FreeBSD 5.1-Release. I forget how i did it though because it went so smoothly for some reason. I have 3 hard drives. win2k/win2k3 server on drive 1, dynamic disk on drive 2, and freebsd, openbsd, mandrake on drive 3. after i started installing open and mandrake i just went to another boot loader.

personally i like 3rd party boot loaders better than any supplied with the OS. I said this in another post but try using the GAG boot loader: http://gag.sourceforge.net/
 
  


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