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Old 11-10-2011, 03:23 PM   #1
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What is better (VirtualBox or WMware)


I am supposed to run some virtual machines under FreeBSD.
Something Ive never done before and still curious which program to use...
Any suggestions ?
 
Old 11-10-2011, 03:33 PM   #2
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I suggest qemu-kvm. Read about VirtualBox issues here.
 
Old 11-10-2011, 04:32 PM   #3
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I am supposed to run some virtual machines under FreeBSD.
Something Ive never done before and still curious which program to use...
Any suggestions ?
Virtualbox is there to use it, dunno why they see issues on Virtualbox, works like a charm here.

VMware is not available on FreeBSD, You can use QEMU through, but its a lot slower then Virtualbox.

USB pass-through is available on FreeBSD if You need it.

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I suggest qemu-kvm. Read about VirtualBox issues here.
FreeBSD is not Linux mate, KVM is only available on Linux and (recently) SmartOS, a custom OpenSolaris/OpenIndiana/Illumos distribution.

Dunno why these rants about Virtualbox, works like a charm on FreeBSD as a host os, stable as rock.
 
Old 11-10-2011, 04:40 PM   #4
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FreeBSD is not Linux mate, KVM is only available on Linux and (recently) SmartOS, a custom OpenSolaris/OpenIndiana/Illumos distribution.
qemu is slow, qemu-kvm is very fast. For qemu-kvm on FreeBSD see here.

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Dunno why these rants about Virtualbox, works like a charm on FreeBSD as a host os, stable as rock.
It may sound strange, but when kernel developers go out of their way to explain that a software product corrupts memory and has caused many issues, going so far as to refuse to look at bug reports with the software installed, I'll take their word for it.
 
Old 11-10-2011, 05:05 PM   #5
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qemu is slow, qemu-kvm is very fast. For qemu-kvm on FreeBSD see here.
Its still not KVM mate, its just QEMU with (still a lot slower then Virtualbox) KQEMU accelrator module, not KVM.

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It may sound strange, but when kernel developers go out of their way to explain that a software product corrupts memory and has caused many issues, going so far as to refuse to look at bug reports with the software installed, I'll take their word for it.
Well, I have only 'heard' Linux developers version, I havent heard anything bad from FreeBSD developers about Virtualbox, but if course there are some issues OpenBSD team reported, problems with registers and so, but none software is perfect.

Currently best possible virtualization solution for FreeBSD is Virtualbox and works very well, at least, for me.
 
Old 11-10-2011, 05:30 PM   #6
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Its still not KVM mate, its just QEMU with (still a lot slower then Virtualbox) KQEMU accelrator module, not KVM.
If it's true that FreeBSD's implementation doesn't use hardware acceleration, you'd be better off running either Linux first level and FreeBSD as a qemu-kvm guest, or running FreeBSD under XEN. I wouldn't use VirtualBox in production.
 
Old 11-13-2011, 01:47 PM   #7
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I just came across this call for testing of BHyVe:

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Neel Natu and Peter Grehan unveiled BHyVe, the "BSD HyperVisor" for FreeBSD at BSDCan 2011 and kindly helped me get it up and running. I invite you to do the same and explore the many possibilities of this up and coming alternative to Linux KVM. Because BHyVe relies primarily on the Virtual Machine Manager vmm.ko kernel module, it should be portable to other BSD's and even other operating systems. BHyVe guest virtual machines run modified FreeBSD kernels at this time and there are many opportunities to remove this limitation. Be aware that BHyVe is under active development and should be considered experimental. That said, I am pleased to report that it has performed predictably in every test I have run to date.
You may want to follow the project if you are interested in hardware accelerated virtualization on FreeBSD.
 
Old 11-14-2011, 12:35 AM   #8
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too late, already installed VirtualBox and believe me its flying like a bird
 
  


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